Day 162 - 25 Jul 95 - Page 11
1 side of the toaster is hot as well. Accidentally, they
2 could have -----
3
4 Q. Hot enough to burn?
5 A. Yes.
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7 Q. Are all of them like that?
8 A. Yes. (Pause)
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you want to have a break now, and you can
11 check what more you have to ask, if anything.
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13 MS. STEEL: Yes. Thank you.
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15 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Five minutes, then.
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17 (Short adjournment)
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19 MS. STEEL: Just on the rap session, you said it was not
20 typical, it was very quiet. Is that based on the fact
21 that, from what we see on the film, it appeared to be
22 fairly short?
23 A. It is quieter. The crew members have not said as much
24 as they normally do say about a certain topic. For
25 example, on the Managers, they would have said more; about
26 the performance reviews, they would have said more; and all
27 of them would have been involved, instead of the one
28 person, one person quietly saying very few words about it.
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30 Q. What I meant was, I do not know, but it may be the case
31 that actually the rap session was longer but only the more
32 kind of interesting parts were shown on the programme?
33 A. I cannot -----
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35 Q. And if that was the case -- what I am getting at is, are
36 you saying that they do not seem like they are saying much
37 because there is not much -- because it seems to be a very
38 short rap session, from the programme?
39 A. From what I have seen, it does not look, it does
40 not -----
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is not the impression I am getting, that
43 not as much as actually being said during the bit -----
44 A. That is correct.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I mean, there were pauses, were there not?
47 There was one young man, and then a second, who said much
48 more than anyone else. The picture I have at the moment --
49 supported by the evidence -- is just what I would expect,
50 that when there are cameras there some people may come
51 forward, but others are just going to stay in their shells.
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53 MS. STEEL: You have never been to a rap session with those
54 crew, though, have you, being the Manager?
55 A. I could not, because it is my restaurant.
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57 Q. Right. So you do not actually know how they normally
58 behave in a rap session?
59 A. No, I do not, but, from the report I get, I know that
60 lots of comments have been given.
