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2 MR. RAMPTON: That I do not know. I have not gone back as far
3 as that. I simply asked for the last month in 1994 when
4 there were a complete set of handwritten schedules.
5 I think, in fact, that is what your Lordship asked for. In
6 fact, what -----
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It may well have been.
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10 MR. RAMPTON: So that is what we did. My Lord, really, the
11 object of what we propose is to give your Lordship the
12 opportunity to see how the scheduling is done, what hours
13 the named people were scheduled to work, but, leaving the
14 whole of the schedule in place apart from the names of the
15 unspecified people, showing your Lordship what the schedule
16 looks like, how it breaks down part-timers, full-timers,
17 training squad, and so on and so forth, leaving in the
18 names of the people that are on Mr. Morris' list, and then
19 doing the same exercise with the clock cards, so that
20 your Lordship can see how the hours actually worked by
21 those named people correspond with the hours for which they
22 were original scheduled throughout the month -- which
23 your Lordship might think useful.
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25 The reason we have not asked for the weekly time sheets --
26 there is no doubt they exist -- is that they do not give
27 your Lordship any more information than the clock cards do,
28 save for the amount that the people were paid, which is not
29 an issue so far as Mr. Logan's evidence is concerned.
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What period is it suggested those weekly time
32 sheets should cover?
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34 MR. RAMPTON: I am not proposing to make discovery of the weekly
35 time sheets.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Sorry -- the clock card sheets.
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39 MR. RAMPTON: Exactly the same period: the whole of May 1994;
40 exactly the same period as the schedules. As I say, it is
41 a random pluck. I will tell your Lordship how many sheets
42 of paper there are at the end of all this.
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44 We also have the adjustment sheets which go with the clock
45 card sheets for the same month, May 1994.
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just pause a moment. (Pause)
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49 MR. RAMPTON: We also have the zero hours and excessive hours
50 sheets for that same period of four weeks. In fact, I said
51 May 1994; the four week period that is covered by the
52 sheets is, I think, four weeks; and one notes 1st May to
53 the 29th, inclusive.
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55 I can tell your Lordship this, because I have looked at
56 them, that by that means your Lordship will be able to get
57 a snapshot -- it is not a conclusive snapshot; no snapshot
58 can be -- of, first of all, the way in which scheduling is
59 done (which is perhaps not of enormous interest in the
60 case, but it is perhaps relevant). But, more particularly,
