Day 173 - 16 Oct 95 - Page 15

     
     1   Q.   OK.  We have heard something to the effect that the ratio
     2        in the UK is 20 full-timers to 80 part-timers, something
     3        like that, 20 per cent to 80 per cent.  Was that right?
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL: We have actually had varying -- that has been
     6        one, and another has been 70/30.
     7
     8   MR. MORRIS:  I think the national figures, though, were said to
     9        be 20 to 80.
    10
    11        (To the witness)  But do you happen to know what roughly
    12        the figures -- would it have been roughly the same as the
    13        UK at the time?
    14        A.  Sorry, is your question relating to this particular
    15        time?
    16
    17   Q.   1979.
    18        A.  Right.  Obviously, it is a long time ago, so I cannot
    19        recall, but I would say it probably was more than that.
    20        I would say possibly 30 per cent.
    21
    22   Q.   30/70, maybe, something like that?
    23        A.  Yes.
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  This is in 1979?
    26        A.  Yes.
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS: Does that apply to the total employment in the
    29        Company, that something like 30/70, or just the crew?
    30        A.  Just the restaurant management and the crew.
    31
    32   Q.   So that would be the total in-store employees, including
    33        management, the breakdown would be something like 30/70?
    34        I think you can put close that up for the moment.  Thank
    35        you.  It is probably better to close it and leave it on the
    36        side.  We will probably come back to it later.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is there any significance to you in just how
    39        many people were working for the Company, because
    40        I remember what Mr. Mehigan says in his statement about the
         number of people?
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I think we will come back to that later.
    44
    45   MS. STEEL:  Does the Wages Council in Ireland -- that is
    46        correct, is it not?  You have mentioned it in your
    47        statement.
    48        A.  Yes, there is the JLC.
    49
    50   Q.   They set pay rates? 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What is that? 
    53        A.  Sorry, my Lord.  It is the Joint Labour Committee.
    54
    55   MS. STEEL:  They set pay rates, yes?
    56        A.  Yes.
    57
    58   Q.   Do they do that on an annual basis or on some other basis?
    59        A.  They do it annually; they review rates annually.
    60