Day 182 - 02 Nov 95 - Page 17


     
     1        A.  Well, I believe almost all of these -- I think 10 out
     2        of 11, or nine out of 11 -- were Sri Lankans, which do not
     3        speak Norwegian almost at all; and, obviously, it would be
     4        very, very difficult for them to work in a restaurant where
     5        you have to be both fluent in Norwegian and some English.
     6
     7   Q.   Now, if you just go to letter 2.  Hold on a second.  I
     8        only want to refer to letters that we need, just so we can
     9        get them translated.  Is it common ground -- I suppose it
    10        is common ground that they were -- you said the union
    11        opposed on their behalf anyway, these dismissals?
    12        A.  Yes.
    13
    14   Q.   If we go to letter 4, this is the final agreement that they
    15        would be taken back; yes?
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   Can you point out to us relevant passages?
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, I do not -- you see, that immediately
    21        puts the judgment of what is relevant in the witness.  If
    22        you want to rely on this at all, I suggest that you -- it
    23        will take a little time -- you merely ask Mr. Jenssen to
    24        read it through in English.
    25
    26   MR. MORRIS:  Right.
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  (To the witness): Can you do that?  Take your
    29        time, and give us the best translation you can.
    30        A.  I will try.
    31
    32   MR. MORRIS:  Can you just -- right, just a translation.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  There is no issue that the union warned
    35        McDonald's that there would be a strike.  Mr. Holm does not
    36        dispute that.  The dispute is about any suggestion that
    37        McDonald's were worried that the strike would affect their
    38        suppliers, because, rightly or wrongly, Mr. Holm said he
    39        was not concerned about that because he has one supplying
    40        company which is not union organised.  I would have
    41        thought, since that is the only issue, that is what you
    42        should concentrate on, if indeed there is any dispute about
    43        it.
    44
    45   MR. MORRIS:  The only point that I wanted to draw the court's
    46        attention to was point number 2, which Mr. Jenssen has told
    47        me clearly says about how their wages are going to go up
    48        40 per cent, and we can see the word -----
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you are going to do that, I really think we 
    51        have to have the whole letter, because that may seem the 
    52        only important thing to you but, if you are looking at it 
    53        from a different perspective, there may be something else
    54        which is important.
    55
    56   MR. MORRIS:  Mr. Jenssen has given his evidence on that; and if
    57        Mr. Rampton wants to challenge it, then I will leave that
    58        to Mr. Rampton.
    59
    60   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord, that is not fair, you see.  It is

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