Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 15

     
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     2   Q.   You felt able enough to make a decision to work at
     3        McDonald's, did you?
     4        A.  Yes.
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     6   Q.   You were old enough to make that decision?
     7        A.  Yes.  But my mother and I had a huge fight about it.
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     9   Q.   You made up your own mind and decided to do it anyway?
    10        A.  After we fought, yes, I still made up my own mind about
    11        it.
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    13   Q.   Do you feel that you were old enough then to make up your
    14        own mind about the union?
    15        A.  Yes, I do.  But, I mean, you know, with making up my
    16        own mind, you can make the right decisions and you can make
    17        the wrong decisions; and that was a wrong decision to sign
    18        that card.
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    20   Q.   But you can do that, whatever age you are; you can make a
         wrong decision?
    22        A.  Well, I mean, you can -- I mean, there is children who
    23        are four years old who decide to make up their own minds to
    24        kill a little child somewhere else.  I mean, they are
    25        making up their own mind.
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    27   Q.   Did you not say to Cam and to the solicitors acting on your
    28        behalf that you felt insulted by this argument?
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    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why should she say that?  If the parents,
    31        rightly or wrongly, want to object to their children
    32        joining a union, why should she say she is insulted by
    33        them?
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    35   MS. STEEL:   I want to ask her a question, and then I have one
    36        more question to ask her on this.
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    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You have asked that question once, and we
    39        then had a series of questions and answers which lasted
    40        some time, and now you have asked it again.  Ask the next
         question that you want to ask.  She obviously did not feel
    42        insulted by her parents taking that point of view.  Maybe
    43        you will say that she should have felt insulted, but it is
    44        quite clear she did not.
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    46   MS. STEEL:  No.  But that is not really the point I am trying to
    47        make.  It is not the parents anyway; it is the intervenors
    48        on behalf of the workers and McDonald's.  The point is that
    49        it was made on behalf of McDonald's Restaurant.
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    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You put what you were hoping to get out of 
    52        it. 
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    54   MS. STEEL (To the witness):  The point is, you were happy to go
    55        along at this point with anything, any argument, that would
    56        prevent the union getting in, were you not, no matter
    57        whether it was what you felt or not?
    58        A.  No.  It was what I felt.  I felt I did not want my card
    59        in there.  I felt I did not want a union in McDonald's.  So
    60        I was going to do what I felt was right, you know, like