Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 18

     
     1        evidence for the Company means to say they can say what the
     2        Company thinks seems to me to be a complete illogical
     3        step.
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     5   MR. MORRIS:  All right.  Maybe her opinion about that is not
     6        important; it is just a fact.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, I do not think it is at all.
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    10   MR. MORRIS:  It is a fact that the Company is clearly ensuring
    11        that no union can ever get in.  If it won its application,
    12        they would never be able to get in because the majority of
    13        employees were under 18 and they were not allowed to join a
    14        union, by definition.  Anyway -- Yes.  (To the witness):
    15        Can I ask one question about the Labour Board hearings?
    16        You said you did not really know what went on there?
    17        A.  I, well, not while I was gone.  When I was there, I was
    18        there for three or four days.  I do not know what they
    19        argued before I went in.
    20
    Q.   But the objecting employees, was it you, Chris and Michelle
    22        that are kind of responsible for passing on information to
    23        everybody and to meeting with the lawyers and stuff like
    24        that, or did the lawyers just get on with it?
    25        A.  The lawyers, like, it was half and half.  Sometimes,
    26        like from what I understood, I mean, when it first started
    27        out with a petition, it was Michelle and I and Chris Broom
    28        who called people.
    29
    30   Q.   But after that, after that had been done?
    31        A.  I think it was the lawyers.  I never called anybody
    32        about meeting with the lawyers.
    33
    34   Q.   Right.  If there had been any meeting with the lawyers on
    35        behalf of the employees, you would have known about it
    36        because you were one of the key people?
    37        A.  I am sorry?  If, like, are you saying this is just a
    38        hypothetical question?
    39
    40   Q.   I am just trying to find out how much you know about what
         happened?
    42        A.  That is why I wanted to just ask is this a hypothetical
    43        question.  Are you asking me that if Michelle was to go see
    44        the lawyer that I would know?
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, Mr. Morris' question was put, rather, as
    47        a statement than a question.  That often happens.  What you
    48        are being asked is, do you think you would have known about
    49        any meeting called by the lawyers with crew?
    50        A.  Like, if they called a meeting with a one-on-one with 
    51        crew, or if called --- 
    52 
    53   Q.   I do not know.
    54        A.  -- because if they called a one-on-one -- if they
    55        wanted to talk to -- again I am going to use Michelle as an
    56        example -- if they wanted to talk to Michelle about
    57        whatever happened, they are going to talk to her.  They are
    58        not going to have me in the room while talking to her.  I
    59        was never in the room when they talked to all these people
    60        if they did talk to all these people.  I mean, when they