Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 19

     
     1        talked to me, it was just me and the lawyers.  That is it.
     2
     3   MR. MORRIS:  What I am saying is, you were one of the main
     4        objecting employees, yes?
     5        A.  Yes.
     6
     7   Q.   You and Chris Broom and maybe a couple of others, you were
     8        the one of the main, but you did not have any meetings with
     9        any of the lawyers once it all got underway, apart from
    10        over your own testimony?
    11        A.  There was once where the lawyer, a lawyer, Roseanne
    12        Angotti -- she is not even a lawyer, I do not think, she is
    13        just like a secretary to a lawyer; I am not sure what her
    14        position is -- she came over to my house and there were
    15        people there, and she wanted to know, you know, what had
    16        happened to us personally, but she went downstairs and used
    17        the basement and we, my mother and, you know, my mother and
    18        I, we stayed upstairs in the kitchen, and she was just
    19        serving, like, coffee and tea and juice for anybody who was
    20        there.  That is the only one I can remember.
    21
    22   Q.   The point is these lawyers that were being instructed by
    23        somebody else who was paying their wages, were they not?
    24        A.  Well .....
    25
    26   Q.   They were not being instructed by you?
    27        A.  Roseanne Angotti was not being paid by me, so she was
    28        not being instructed by me.  So whatever she did was
    29        whatever, whoever was paying her, which I think it was
    30        Cam.  But I am not even sure who Roseanne was for, but
    31        Mr. Pugsley, if he did anything, you know, I figure he
    32        would be instructed by Chris Broom because Chris Broom
    33        was  .....
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You do not know who instructed them, if
    36        I understood your evidence?
    37        A.  No, I do not.
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS:  Right.
    40        A.  Like not any of the other lawyers -----
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just leave it there.
    43
    44   MR. MORRIS:  So, in fact, as you say, you did not even know the
    45        terms of the agreement before the vote about what exactly
    46        the employer had to do to put union material in the store
    47        and all that kind of stuff.  You said:  "I did not know
    48        anything about that, that was something" -----
    49        A.  No, I did not know about that.
    50 
    51   Q.   But that was done in your name because that was an 
    52        agreement between Service Employees International Union, 
    53        applicants, and Ballantyne Food Limited, McDonald's
    54        Restaurants of Canada Limited and objecting employees, so
    55        really ---
    56        A.  If they made -----
    57
    58   Q.   -- you were being manipulated by somebody who you do not
    59        know who was instructing ------
    60