Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 24
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2 Q. Were you worried that you thought he did not know what was
3 going on?
4 A. I do not think -- I do not know if that is a proper
5 word for it. I mean, I thought he should know, but I was
6 told not to say anything to anyone, so I did not.
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8 Q. When you phoned people up on the Saturday, I think it was
9 -- is that right ---
10 A. Yes.
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12 Q. -- how many people did you phone?
13 A. Not very many. I was at work on Saturday, like
14 I worked, so I did not get a chance to talk to very many
15 people.
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17 Q. When did you phone people then -- when you got home?
18 A. Well, mostly Sunday, Sunday morning.
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20 MISS MORRIS: Can I just ask something?
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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24 MS. STEEL: Yesterday there was this discussion about the John
25 Doe letter. I do not know actually know whether it matters
26 a lot, but I think you said that it sounded as though it
27 was a standard form that was from that ----
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. I have noticed that -- it is more
30 obvious on some than others, the shorter ones -- that May
31 is in brackets, the address in brackets, phone number in
32 brackets. Then there are other things in brackets which
33 are name and address, but they have been put in by the
34 Labour Board because they have taken the name and address
35 out. But do you know what John Doe means?
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37 MS. STEEL: No, I do not actually. I mean, I gathered from the
38 context -----
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Nowadays the modern equivalent is Joe Bloggs,
41 but in Medieval times or many hundreds of years ago "John
42 Doe" was taken as the fictitious name of someone involved
43 in legal proceedings as we talk about Joe Bloggs now or the
44 equivalent. So, I had understood a John Doe letter was one
45 which was in a standard form.
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47 What I wanted to know, whether the standard form was just
48 that you put your name here, your address here and your
49 phone number here, but it became apparent from
50 Miss Iurilla's evidence that there was more to it than
51 that, because she said that the John Doe letter had those
52 matters and then the introductory words down to the word
53 "because", whereafter it was not any longer a John Doe
54 letter, it was a Sabina Iurilla letter, or whoever.
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56 MS. STEEL: It was just that yesterday you said something like
57 it sounded to you as though it was a standard form from the
58 NLRB, and I was not sure from that whether you were saying
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