Day 185 - 07 Nov 95 - Page 23
1 During the five minute break, I would like you to reflect a
2 little on just how much detail it is useful to go into. At
3 the end of the day, the vote was about 80:20 against the
4 union. I may have to ask myself whether that is because
5 the employer had sowed the seeds of unjustified worrying
6 the crew, whether there was some parental pressure from
7 parents who did not much like the idea of a union, whether
8 it was because of importuning by Cam Ballantyne in the run
9 up to the election, or whether it is because a fair number
10 of the 67 who signed had not really had their heart in it
11 in the first place and had signed under some pressure from
12 Sarah Inglis and others. These are the more main issues.
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14 You are going to call Miss Inglis in due course and I will
15 hear her. I will hear Miss Wetli this afternoon and
16 tomorrow. There is a limit to which it is going to help me
17 to go running off into details where the evidence may
18 conflict, and it may be difficult to reach a firm view one
19 way or the other, so I would invite you to concentrate on
20 the main strands. I will come back at 12 o'clock.
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22 (Short adjournment)
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24 MS. STEEL: You said that you told Cam that someone was trying
25 to start a union in the restaurant without giving names?
26 A. Yes.
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28 Q. "We thought it was right that he should know what was going
29 on in his own restaurant". You said you told him on
30 4th October. You had told him before then, had you not?
31 A. No, I did not tell him until I came back from the
32 Labour Board hearing. I never said anything to him.
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34 Q. So it was only at the point when you came back from the
35 Labour Board hearing that you felt -----
36 A. Not the hearing but when we had the petition.
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38 Q. Sorry. It was only at the point when you came back from
39 handing in the petitions that you felt that he should know
40 what was going on in his own restaurant?
41 A. I felt, like, he should know, but we were told by Sarah
42 at first to keep everything quiet, and I had not talked to
43 anyone about it until, I guess, Friday when I talked to
44 Michelle. I mean, I was upset that I could not get my card
45 back and I did not know what to do, but I did not know who
46 to talk to about it. That Friday I talked to Michelle and
47 she said she was upset and I said: "Why are you upset?"
48 and she told me and I said: "Well, I am having the same
49 problem" and then, you know, I never said anything to
50 anyone until that night.
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52 Q. You did not seek out Cam on the Friday then?
53 A. No.
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55 Q. Or on the Saturday?
56 A. No.
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58 Q. Or the Sunday?
59 A. No. I do not even think what -- I did not even see him
60 that weekend. I do not even know if he was there.
