Day 201 - 15 Dec 95 - Page 11

     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.
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     3   MR. RAMPTON:  There are already seven appendices.  They go
     4        within those seven appendices.  I am told your Lordship
     5        probably already has them.
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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     9   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, if Mr. Morris is finished, there are
    10        really only two other matters to deal with.  Going back to
    11        our agenda for today, if I may deal with them in reverse
    12        order, the first is whether your Lordship needs any longer
    13        or, indeed, ought any longer to hear Mr. Bateman and
    14        Ms. Link.  The second is next term's schedule.  My Lord,
    15        neither of those should take very long.
    16
    17        I believe your Lordship has a copy of the Freudian Holdings
    18        case.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  When I looked at it, I remembered it
         perfectly well.  It does not seem to me to add anything
    22        from the legal or procedural point view.  It is just
    23        Rose L.J. (a lot of people might think sensibly) geeing
    24        everyone up to concentrate on the issues.
    25
    26   MR. RAMPTON:  Well, I know.  It made me think, quite in a
    27        heartfelt way, about whether we had needed all that
    28        evidence about CFCs and methane.  But that is water under
    29        the bridge.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  CFCs are water under the bridge.  I have
    32        already said more than once that I will need some help when
    33        we come to submissions as to whether CFCs and making
    34        polystyrene has anything whatsoever to do with anything
    35        which is raised in the leaflet.  One might express it in
    36        this way, that someone might be able to write a very
    37        interesting leaflet about polystyrene and CFCs and HCFCs,
    38        but whoever wrote this leaflet does not appear to have put
    39        them in.
    40
         What concerns me is that at present they do not seem to
    42        have put in anything which had anything to do with wood
    43        pulp processing for paper making either.  If I can pre-empt
    44        you on this, what I would really like to do is hear what
    45        Ms. Steel or Mr. Morris has to say to justify the relevance
    46        of any evidence about wood pulp processing for
    47        paper making.
    48
    49   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, in that case, I will gratefully sit down.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The issue is basically this:  should I hear 
    52        any evidence from Ms. Link, or from Mr. Bateman if Ms. Link 
    53        is called -- and it is only proposed to call him if she is
    54        called -- about wood pulp processing for paper making?
    55        Obviously, I would want to hear it if it is relevant to a
    56        valid issue in the trial, but, equally, I do not want to
    57        hear it if it is not.
    58
    59        While you are thinking about that, I would like you to --
    60        if my memory serves me correctly, the main thrust of