Day 206 - 22 Jan 96 - Page 26
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2 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, then next might be Mr. -----
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I will hand back my copy of that statement
5 or, rather, the copy that was handed up. If I find my
6 original copy, I will shred it.
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8 MS. STEEL: I am sure I should not say this and I might get into
9 trouble for saying it, but I hope the comment about us
10 being separate parties will be taken into consideration
11 next time one of us wants a day off because we are ill or
12 for some other reason, and it is argued that as we have
13 both got the same case it is no hardship for one of us not
14 to be here.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is a completely different situation.
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18 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, that does not, I believe, call for .....
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20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, leave it there.
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22 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, my Lord. The next thing is Mr. Stein's
23 evidence to Congress or some Congressional Committee. On
24 the basis of that transcript, if that is what it is and it
25 appears that it is -- I have no instructions at the moment
26 -- Mr. Morris has produced a proposed amendment for which
27 he needs leave. This has turned out, as I anticipated last
28 Wednesday, that it might be with one exception. My Lord,
29 I do not know if your Lordship has that? It is, in
30 fact -----
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I have. One thing which troubles me about
33 the situation with regard to Mr. Stein and the
34 Congressional Committee evidence is that I only seem to
35 have part of his written statement and part of what
36 I assume is the transcript of the Committee hearing.
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38 MR. MORRIS: It was all disclosed. It is in the documents in
39 our -- I cannot remember where it was put. The whole
40 statement and the whole of the transcript was disclosed and
41 it was discussed and looked at by the court.
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. This is not a criticism of you; it is
44 just that if I am considering -- it seems to me before one
45 comes to the amendment question, one has to look at what is
46 going in under the Civil Evidence Act and what it seems to
47 me is that it should be all or nothing.
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49 MR. MORRIS: It does not bother us.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am sure it does not concern you.
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53 MR. MORRIS: No.
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55 MR. RAMPTON: I was going to say that. If any of it is to go
56 in, it ought to be the whole. If Mr. Morris was not
57 willing for it to be the whole, I would get round that
58 simply by serving a Civil Evidence Act in respect of the
59 bit which I wanted, but that is a complete nonsense, with
60 respect. The best thing is to read the whole of it
