Day 206 - 22 Jan 96 - Page 29
1 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- the extra from either the written
4 statement or the transcript?
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6 MR. MORRIS: Yes. The transcript of his evidence -- shall I go
7 through what I think are the most significant parts?
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9 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You need not bother about 1 and 3 ---
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11 MR. MORRIS: OK.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- because I propose to give you leave for
14 those. I give you leave for 2 if you can point at
15 something which tends to support it.
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17 MR. MORRIS: Yes, can I just say ------
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But I think you ought to have that. There is
20 no point in having it in if you cannot find it.
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22 MR. MORRIS: No, I will. Can I just point out in point 1 that
23 Mr. Rampton says I should put "alleged" violations.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do not worry about that because what
26 I understand you to say -- it is an argument which may not
27 succeed at the end of the day; I have not thought
28 sufficiently about it yet -- that if there is a citation
29 there probably was a violation. Whether that argument will
30 succeed or not, we will have to see.
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32 MR. MORRIS: Yes. Can I just say though that it may be worth
33 looking at page 234 ---
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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37 MR. MORRIS: -- Mr. Stein in his written statement to the
38 Congress Committee says just before the words "McDonald's
39 workforce": "The majority of these violations were
40 primarily hour related, so we would say he accepts that
41 they are violations, or he ought to -- he is a lawyer. He
42 understands the situation. So, just quoting him really.
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44 Part 2, paragraph 2, it is really the bottom of page 222
45 and the top of page 223. Yes, it is the bottom of page --
46 actually, if you are still on page 234, it may be worth
47 noticing that at the top of page 234 he does say: "Our
48 review of the reports of recent enforcement sweeps
49 indicates that very few of our Company operated restaurants
50 received any violation notices", so some clearly had.
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52 Then at the bottom of page 222, remembering that in the
53 middle of that page Mr. Stein says in the middle of the
54 page: "I am pleased to say that, to my knowledge,
55 McDonald's Corporation has never been cited for child
56 labour violations in any restaurant it has operated". That
57 is challenged by Mr. Lantus. Then at the bottom of the
58 page Mr. Stein distinguishes between federal and state
59 matters.
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