Day 251 - 17 May 96 - Page 13


     
     1        that was occurring in the state of Mato Grosso at the time,
     2        it seems to me, from my personal knowledge of the region,
     3        extremely likely that some of the cattle came from ranches
     4        created on recently-cleared areas of tropical forest.
     5
     6        "Mr. Morganti discusses in his statement (paragraph 9) the
     7        history of the land currently being used to raise cattle
     8        for Braslo.  He says:  'Before that time (that is, 1965),
     9        it is my understanding that the western parts of those
    10        areas (in Goias and Mato Grosso do Sul) were virgin land.
    11        I am as certain as I can be that none of those areas was
    12        occupied by small farmers who were subsequently displaced
    13        by cattle ranching'.  This statement is wrong.  Mato Grosso
    14        do Sul was not virgin land when the cattle-rearers arrived;
    15        it has been occupied for centuries by Guarani and Kadiweu
    16        Indians.
    17
    18        "For the last 30 years (and still today), there has been
    19        serious conflicts in this region, as the Indians struggle
    20        to keep their lands.  Indians have been killed in these
    21        conflicts.  Once again, we do not have the names of the
    22        ranches where Braslo is buying cattle, but the conflicts
    23        have been so widespread that they have involved, at some
    24        time or other, almost all the ranches in this state.
    25        Braslo says that it continues to buy cattle from this
    26        region today.  It is, in my view, impossible for Braslo to
    27        be buying cattle in this region without making purchases
    28        from ranches on land previously occupied by Indians.
    29
    30        "In Goias, the situation is somewhat different.  Until
    31        1989, Goias included the recently-formed state of
    32        Tocantins.  In the 1970s and 1980s, the north of the state
    33        of Goias -- known as the 'parrot's beak' because of its
    34        shape -- was the area with the most violent conflicts in
    35        Brazil.  Hundreds of peasant families were violently
    36        evicted from their land and there were frequent deaths.  I
    37        travelled widely in this region, and spoke to some of the
    38        evicted families.  This region also has large areas of
    39        tropical forest that were cleared to pave the way for
    40        cattle ranches.  The south of Goias has also experienced
    41        land conflict, but on a smaller scale.  Braslo says that it
    42        is buying beef from a meat-packing station in Goiania, the
    43        capital of Goias.  Once again, we do not have the list of
    44        ranches supplying the meat plant, but it seems to me likely
    45        that some of these ranches have been involved in land
    46        conflicts and are occupying land that was once tropical
    47        forest".
    48
    49        We have very recently been given a list of ranches which
    50        McDonald's admits have supplied or are supplying ----- 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is a list of towns, in fact.  If you go to 
    53        that, I would like you to ask Miss Branford to point out
    54        (so I am sure where it is) where the parrot's beak was.
    55        You can use Signor Morganti's map, if you are going we use
    56        it anyway.  I think probably all we need are the middle two
    57        sections for Goias.  If you just get your bearings,
    58        Miss Branford.  (Handed)
    59
    60   THE WITNESS:  Would it help if I identify the parrot's beak?

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