Day 256 - 04 Jun 96 - Page 11


     
     1        that are contained therein, if we examine the relationship
     2        between the intakes of these foods and these nutrients and
     3        the prevalence of these kinds of diseases in human
     4        populations, we again see the association that is in accord
     5        with the biological plausibility that I just mentioned.
     6
     7        So, when one has both biological plausibility, on the one
     8        hand, especially the comprehensive plausibility that we are
     9        now basically obtaining, together with these numerous
    10        association that have been published many times over, it
    11        clearly establishes a very, very strong and convincing
    12        association of causality.
    13
    14        So, I would suggest it does, in fact, raise risk
    15        substantially, especially for people who are particularly
    16        vulnerable, for various and sundry reasons, to these kind
    17        of diseases.
    18
    19   Q.   You said something about the prevalence of such diseases.
    20        I mean, it may be an obvious question, but do you consider
    21        these diseases prevalent or not prevalent in our society?
    22        A.  They are very prevalent.  Both the death rates from
    23        these diseases -- mortality rates, if you will -- as well
    24        as the occurrence of the disease, the morbidity, or just
    25        the occurrence, the incidence of the disease amongst those
    26        who have not yet died, are very high, both of course in the
    27        UK and other western countries, in the United States.  So,
    28        that is what I mean by "prevalence":  the number of cases
    29        of people who are now living or who are dying from these
    30        diseases.
    31
    32   Q.   I am sure this is an obvious question, as well.  Are these
    33        diseases serious or not serious for the individuals
    34        contracting them?
    35        A.  They are clearly very serious -----
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, I really do not think you need to
    38        answer that.
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  It is so obvious, that I do not need to ask it.
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  It is not in issue.
    43
    44   MR. MORRIS:  You talked about people who are particularly at
    45        risk.  Can you explain what you mean by that?
    46        A.  Well, as we go through life and as we begin life, in
    47        fact, each of us as individuals have varying degrees of
    48        risk for various and sundry diseases -- perhaps related to
    49        our genetic background, perhaps related to other kinds of
    50        events that we may experience during our lives; and so, we 
    51        simply are presented with varying degrees of risk.  So the 
    52        consumption of these kind of diets containing these kinds 
    53        of nutrients that you just referred to clearly are most
    54        problematic to those who are at highest risk.  They clearly
    55        are going to be the individuals.  I mean, that is basically
    56        common sense, as well as supported by theoretical
    57        considerations.  These are the kind of individuals who are
    58        first going to suffer these kinds of diseases.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you mean people who are genetically

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