Day 256 - 04 Jun 96 - Page 26


     
     1        I say Hunter and others, though perhaps I should say
     2        Willett and others, because they put the senior man at the
     3        end of the list.  Do you have that there?
     4
     5        Can you bring that to me Mr. Riley, please?
     6        A.  Yes, OK.
     7
     8   MR. MORRIS:  Have you got the Willett?
     9        A.  I do.
    10
    11   Q.   Cohort studies?
    12        A.  Yes.
    13
    14   Q.   Maybe if you look at that, forget Dr. Arnott's statement?
    15        A.  Right, OK.
    16
    17   Q.   Put that one out of the way.  Do you have any general
    18        comment about cohort studies that might relate to this
    19        particular report?
    20        A.  Yes I do and, in fact, I have a specific comment about
    21        this particular paper.  The chief author was David Hunter.
    22        I was actually given a copy of this manuscript before it
    23        was published.  The key author on here is Professor Willett
    24        who is on the committee (as I mentioned to you before) that
    25        I presently co-chair, and so he actually shared this
    26        document with me some time before it was actually
    27        published.  I have discussed it with Professor Willett.
    28
    29        The results of the conclusion of this particular study
    30        I think can be questioned on some grounds that Professor
    31        Willett does not deny, to be honest about it.  Basically
    32        the range of fat intake in this particular study was it
    33        went somewhat lower than previously had been examined; that
    34        is to say, it went below 20 per cent of the calories as
    35        fat.  However, that lowest decilitre, or lowest group only
    36        included a fairly small number of individuals.
    37
    38        To briefly summarise this, you probably know, he did not
    39        find any relationship when comparing these 7 different
    40        studies.  He did not find any relationship between dietary
    41        fat and breast cancer, and the fat intake went to fairly
    42        low levels, as indicated here.
    43
    44        However, the low fat intake, as I just mentioned, included
    45        only a few individuals so that is one limitation, but
    46        setting that aside, I think the chief problem with this
    47        particular examination is that it is focused specifically
    48        on just dietary fat.  In fact, that is the way the subjects
    49        undoubtedly responded in these studies.  That is to say,
    50        they decreased dietary fat alone and kept the rest of the 
    51        diet more or less the same, and the reason I say that is 
    52        because that is reference to one of the chapters that 
    53        I think is in the material that I submitted earlier, and
    54        when people are generally told to decrease their fat intake
    55        down to 30 per cent of the calories or 25 or something in
    56        that neighbourhood, what they tend to do is to simply
    57        decrease their use of added fat, which is fairly easy to
    58        do.  They tend to use lean cuts of meat and low fat dairy
    59        products and, sure enough, they can get their fat intake
    60        down to fairly low levels, but in actual fact they are not

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