Day 262 - 13 Jun 96 - Page 06

     
     1   Q.   Was it very much up to the individual, then, what they put
     2        in from the range of leaflets available?
     3        A.  Well, I suppose it was up to the individual, in that
     4        that was the person responsible for doing it, whichever
     5        letter they had.  There was no one standing over, ensuring
     6        that particular leaflets were put in, no.
     7
     8   MS. STEEL:   OK.  If we just move on to the notes of
     9        11th November.  This one and the next notes are of two
    10        benefit gigs at The New Pegasus Public House, one on
    11        11th November and one on 15th November.  You have made a
    12        note on the first one that the event was organised by
    13        Andrew; yes?  It is in the third paragraph.
    14        A.  Yes, yes.
    15
    16   Q.   Do you recall that both of them were organised by Andrew?
    17        A.  I do not recall from memory, no.
    18
    19   Q.   I do not really know what the significance of those dates
    20        is.  I just thought I had better ask that, just in case
         Mr. Rampton decided to spring something on us at a later
    22        date.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think you are being unnaturally suspicious,
    25        you know, because you can see what Mr. Rampton's case on
    26        behalf of McDonald's is from the statements which Barlow's
    27        have disclosed and the notes that they have disclosed.  It
    28        will not be a question of springing anything on anyone.  If
    29        you give evidence yourself and you call witnesses, they
    30        will merely be asked about things in their knowledge.  That
    31        is not springing something on them; it is just being asked
    32        questions.
    33
    34   MS. STEEL:   The Plaintiffs have thought to put this in
    35        Mr. Pocklington's statement, i.e., they must have thought
    36        there was some significance to it.  I just do not
    37        understand what the significance is.  That is all.
    38
    39   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, the significance emerges -- never mind
    40        the witness statements or the notes -- it emerges from the
         pleadings that one of the strands of the case is the degree
    42        to which these two Defendants were involved in the
    43        activities of the group generally.  Everybody remembers
    44        that; it has been in the case for a very long time.  This
    45        discovery, this evidence, is merely to show that here was a
    46        meeting at The New Pegasus (which I suppose is a pub) at
    47        which Ms. Steel was present.  That is all.  It was a group
    48        event at which she was present.  There are dozens of such
    49        examples in these notes.  I calculate that Ms. Steel was at
    50        roughly 30 events between October 1989 and September 1990. 
    51        My Lord, the first paragraph of Mr. ----- 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not take it any further.
    54
    55   MR. RAMPTON:  I will not take it any further, but it is actually
    56        the first paragraph of the supplementary statement.
    57
    58   MS. STEEL:   Of course, then, if we want the overall picture, we
    59        do have to have the entire notes of all the meetings that
    60        the agents -----