Day 262 - 13 Jun 96 - Page 07

     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Please do not.  You have a witness in the
     3        witness box.  Just ask the questions which you need to ask.
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     5   MS. STEEL:  (To the witness)  16th November, you have got noted
     6        here Helen, Andrew, John, Kevin and Ben being present, plus
     7        some others; in total, nine people.  The "some others"
     8        would have been people who you did not know their names;
     9        yes?
    10        A.  I presume so.
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    12   Q.   There is a reference to a provisional date being set for
    13        the following year's anti-McDonald's fair, and the date
    14        being given.  There is no reference there to any comment
    15        from myself with respect to that?
    16        A.  No.  I have no recollection other than the note.  I do
    17        not know who made that.  I do not know who set the date.
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    19   Q.   If I had said something significant about it, you would
    20        have made a note of that?
         A.  Not necessarily, no.  At that time I was reporting on
    22        -- I did not always report on who said what.  I have no
    23        idea at this time who made that comment.
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    25   Q.   Just as a general point:  I mean, you said yesterday that
    26        you did not hear -- I do not know whether it is a general
    27        point about anybody -- yes, I think it was a general
    28        question that you did not hear anybody in the group, or at
    29        the meeting, sorry, you did not hear anybody at the meeting
    30        disassociating themselves from the discussions about the
    31        fair or about whatever other things might have been going
    32        on; yes?
    33        A.  No, I have no recollection of people disassociating
    34        themselves from it.
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    36   Q.   Did you disassociate yourself?  Did you speak up and say:
    37        "I do not want anything to do with this"?
    38        A.  No, I did not disassociate myself.
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    40   Q.   It would not be the kind of normal expected behaviour,
         would it?
    42        A.  Disassociation from something?  It would depend on the
    43        subject, I suppose.  The range of people at the meetings
    44        varied; some people were quite quiet and really did not
    45        make much of an input; other people were more opinionated
    46        on certain issues and probably would have raised objection
    47        if there was something they did not agree with.  I was
    48        fairly quiet, as far as I recall, throughout most of the
    49        meetings.
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    51   Q.   But, in general, people could speak about something that 
    52        they felt they had something to say about, but otherwise 
    53        they would just stay quiet and not indicate one way or the
    54        other whether they were for or against?
    55        A.  It is certainly possible that someone could have been
    56        against something and not said anything.  But I do not know
    57        what was going through people's minds.  I have no idea if
    58        non-speech on someone's part was due to agreement or just
    59        due to reticence.  I do not know.
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