Day 262 - 13 Jun 96 - Page 08


     
     1   Q.   You said -- I mean, there were not any kind of formal
     2        votes, or anything like that ---
     3        A.  No, there were not.
     4
     5   Q.   -- people put their hands up and said for or against?
     6        A.  No.
     7
     8   Q.   When I asked you about if I had said something significant
     9        about it, you said you would not necessarily have made a
    10        note of it.  So, it is possible that I did say something,
    11        that I was not in favour of the fair on this occasion and
    12        that you did not make a note of that?
    13        A.  It is possible, but less likely, because that would
    14        have been something out of the ordinary and probably been
    15        more notable.  These notes were made at the end, and at the
    16        end, when I was making these notes, I did not always have a
    17        full recollection of who had said what.  Where I did
    18        remember, I would write that down; and if it was something
    19        that was out of the ordinary, then that possibly would have
    20        stuck in my mind more.
    21
    22   Q.   I am going to come back to that later when we get to
    23        subsequent meetings.  Actually, maybe I should deal with it
    24        now.  You recollect that at some stage -- it is in your
    25        notes and I think it is in your statement -- it was decided
    26        that the anti-McDonald's fair should not take place, that
    27        there should be a London Greenpeace fair which would
    28        incorporate the anti-McDonald's fair; yes?
    29        A.  Yes, I recall that.
    30
    31   Q.   Do you recollect how that came about?
    32        A.  No, I do not precisely.  My impression was that the
    33        general feeling was that a lot of time and effort had been
    34        spent exclusively on McDonald's and that people wanted to
    35        do other things as well; there were other things that were
    36        important to them as well.
    37
    38   Q.   Do you recollect that it was Mr. Gravett who was very keen
    39        on having another anti-McDonald's fair and that other
    40        people felt that it was time to move on; some people
    41        thought there should not be a fair at all; and other people
    42        thought that if there was going to be a fair it should be
    43        one that covered a much broader range of campaigns?
    44        A.  That is generally how I recollect the situation.  I do
    45        not necessarily recollect Mr. Gravett being the one pushing
    46        for an anti-McDonald's fair, but it is likely.  I do not
    47        actually recollect that specifically, though.
    48
    49   Q.   If I put to you that I was actually opposed to the fair,
    50        and I said that I thought it took up too much of the 
    51        group's energy and that we should be concentrating on other 
    52        things like organising pickets, and so on, for IMF, and 
    53        other events, would you accept that, or do you just not
    54        remember?
    55        A.  I do not remember, no.  I cannot say one way or the
    56        other.
    57
    58   MS. STEEL:  Could you get your statement, please?
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is the beginning of tab 8 -- sorry, 7; it

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