Day 268 - 24 Jun 96 - Page 11

     
     1        A.   No, I did not.
     2
     3   Q.   You can remember that bit clearly, can you?
     4        A.   I would not have done something like that.
     5
     6   Q.   It is all right to do it to the Greenpeace office but it is
     7        not all right to do it to people's houses?
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not both to answer that question.
    10
    11   MS. STEEL:  Well, I am entitled to ask --
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  He said he slipped the lock of
    14        Greenpeace.  For better or worse, he said he slipped the
    15        lock of other addresses.  You do not need to ask him if one
    16        is right and the other is wrong.  You can address me about
    17        whether it was wrong to slip the London Greenpeace office
    18        lock, if you think it will help you to suggest that it was
    19        all sinister and to do with bugging and they have not
    20        disclosed tapes of the bugs or anything of that kind.
    21
    22   MS. STEEL:  No, but it is a question of whether he is telling
    23        the truth about whether he slipped the locks of getting
    24        into people's houses as well.  I am entitled to ask about
    25        that.
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   He said he did not.
    28
    29   MS. STEEL:  I am entitled to test it though.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You put to him what happened then if he did
    32        slip it, any information you have about slipping other
    33        people's locks.
    34
    35   MS. STEEL:  I do not have to have information.  I am entitled to
    36        test the evidence.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just observe my ruling, please.  Carry on.
    39
    40   MS. STEEL:  I have got to say, you know, we have guaranteed to
         finish by 1.00 o'clock.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That does not matter.  You ask questions
    44        which I rule are relevant, and if you then observe my
    45        ruling, which you must do, whether it is right or wrong you
    46        must do, then we will finish even earlier.
    47
    48   MS. STEEL:  But the point is --
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Look, if you carry on arguing, I will tell
    51        you to sit down and complete your cross-examination.  I am
    52        the Judge, you at this moment are advocate and you must
    53        observe my ruling.
    54
    55   MS. STEEL:  Right, but can I just say that I did not get a
    56        chance to put why it would be relevant, and it would be
    57        relevant because if they got into the house and took some
    58        documentation away or anything like that, then there might
    59        be other relevant information --
    60