Day 270 - 28 Jun 96 - Page 09

     
     1   MR. MORRIS:  In the bundle at page No. 3 at the bottom, which is
     2        the second page of this day's notes, the central paragraph
     3        reads, "The meeting commenced at 8 p.m. and 'the
     4        chairperson' began by talking about the group in very broad
     5        terms, stressing that there were no members as such but
     6        that the group consisted of anyone who chose to involve him
     7        or herself in the group's activities.  He also said that
     8        they preferred that the group remained without a specific
     9        structure or administration."  Then there was a very boring
    10        speaker from the Council for the Protection of Rural
    11        England, apparently, according to your note.
    12
    13        Would you say that is a fair or is that typical of all the
    14        meetings you went to, that description?  Was that your
    15        experience, or was it just that one -----
    16
    17   MR. RAMPTON:  I believe that Mr. Morris is going about this in
    18        the wrong way, I have to say.  The first thing, surely, is
    19        to ask the witness whether she thinks that her notes are
    20        accurate, instead of using it as a basis for leading
         questions.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  All right.  Is that an accurate record of that?
    24        A.  Well, my calling him "a chairperson" was not quite
    25        accurate, because there was, as I have said before, no real
    26        chairman as such.  At each of the meetings different people
    27        would just volunteer to sort of kick off the meeting, and,
    28        yes, the rest of it is accurate; the group consisted of
    29        anyone who chose to involve himself or herself in the
    30        group's activities.  There always seemed to be different
    31        people coming and going.  There were not always the same
    32        people there all the time at each meeting and, certainly,
    33        there was not very much structure.  There was not any
    34        structure really to any of the meetings.  The only
    35        administration really was that there was a volunteer each
    36        time who made some form of notes of what took place in a
    37        red book, I believe I referred to.  But at this particular
    38        meeting I do not think -- I am not sure if there were
    39        minutes taken.  I have not read through the whole of this
    40        yet.
    41
    42   Q.   Okay.  Do not worry about that.
    43        A.  No, but that paragraph, that is pretty accurate, apart
    44        from chairperson.  It is my interpretation of someone who
    45        stood up and sort of led the group into the meeting.
    46
    47   MS. STEEL:  If we go to -- unfortunately, my numbers are cut off
    48        at the bottom.
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Give a date, or is it in the same one? 
    51 
    52   MR. RAMPTON:  Your Honour, I think they start on page 8. 
    53
    54   THE WITNESS:  Yes.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  The trouble is they do not have numbers
    57        on.
    58
    59   MR. MORRIS:  8, that is page 8 at the bottom.
    60