Day 279 - 12 Jul 96 - Page 04


     
     1        McSpotlight, 228 was the statement by the McLibel
     2        defendant's second anniversary of the trial and I am not
     3        going to -- I am going to call that second anniversary
     4        statement.  I will not take time to write in the others
     5        now, but if one becomes 229, 230 and 231.  The main purpose
     6        of this is that we are all working on the same numbering.
     7
     8   MS. STEEL:  If I could just bring up a couple of things relating
     9        to what happened yesterday.
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
    12
    13   MS. STEEL:  One is just that yesterday I was asked about the
    14        1989 programme and the "10 things you did not know about
    15        McDonald's" chart, which is in tab 39 page 102 -- 1988,
    16        sorry, yes.  Thank you, Mr. Rampton, you are right.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Which is in?
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:  In tab 39, page 102.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Of which volume?
    23
    24   MR. RAMPTON:  That is pink 1A, my Lord.
    25
    26   MS. STEEL:  Yesterday I said, "I did not write the fact sheet
    27        neither did Paul.  I presume he did the programme although
    28        I do not know to be honest."  Then I said, "So whether Paul
    29        if he wrote this programme had the same thing in mind as
    30        the person who had written the fact sheet I don't know."  I
    31        now understand that in fact this was something that was
    32        sent over from America.  Obviously, I cannot personally
    33        give evidence about that, but certainly, in respect of what
    34        I said yesterday, that was just me making a supposition
    35        about whether or not he had actually written that, so.  The
    36        reference from yesterday's transcript is page 8 line 34.
    37        The answer starts, "I presume he did the programme although
    38        I don't know to be honest."  In respect of that particular
    39        part of it.
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The effect of that is that you said you did
    42        not know.
    43
    44   MS. STEEL:  Yes, okay.  The other matter which I said I would
    45        look up last night is the reference for the thing about the
    46        transcript scandal.  I do not know whether you still have
    47        that document available?
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL: The transcript, yes, you want to give me a
    50        reference about that?
    51
    52   MS. STEEL:  The actual reference is day 147, page 31, line 47 it
    53        starts on.  The only thing which is not there is the word
    54        "people" which appears in square brackets, and that is
    55        because I think Mr. Rampton was cut off in mid sentence.
    56        It has got "like minded" and then "dot dot dot" or he may
    57        have actually said it in court and we heard it but it did
    58        not come out on the transcript, but that is not exactly the
    59        most important point because he is not going to be talking
    60        about anything other than people, so.

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