Day 286 - 24 Oct 96 - Page 04


     
     1        because I think it is pretty clear what is happening on the
     2        ground to a large extent.  But I will flag up the important
     3        things.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is what I want you to do, yes.
     6
     7   MR. MORRIS:   Right.  Let me just sit down a minute.  I am going
     8        to come to Brazil.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    11
    12   MR. MORRIS:   It might be helpful to have a map.  I do not know
    13        how much reference I am going to make to it.
    14
    15        First of all, I want to make a general point about Brazil,
    16        about Brazil's relevance to this case, which I touched on
    17        yesterday, that it was unfortunate that Brazil only came
    18        into the case as a result of an error from the plaintiffs
    19        in disclosing a very important document.  I think that
    20        illustrates some of what we have been saying about the
    21        unfairness - this is the legal submission made - about the
    22        current libel laws and the burden of proof being entirely
    23        on the defence, and we would say that McDonald's failure to
    24        defend the counterclaim, effectively, by defending the
    25        issues, having an obligation to defend the issues, and it
    26        seems that they are trying to hide behind a privileged
    27        self-defence argument as a way of avoiding having to deal
    28        with the truth or otherwise of what they said in their
    29        defamatory literature published about me and Helen, which
    30        seems to me to be an abuse of the spirit of the law and the
    31        law itself.
    32
    33        That is compounded by the fact that even when Brazil came
    34        into the case we had to struggle very hard to get them to
    35        hand over information about their supply sources.  We would
    36        argue, and I did argue, if you remember, when we got
    37        Mr. Morganti's statement, that it was ambiguous.  And I did
    38        not succeed in convincing you at that time, but as it later
    39        turned out, because of the completely logical inconsistency
    40        of the yellow flashes in Goiana, it was completely clear
    41        there must be other supply sources that were not mentioned,
    42        that were not identified in Brazil.
    43
    44        Then, again by good fortune, our final witness on Brazil
    45        had been delayed from coming into the witness box because
    46        she had been in Brazil.  That is Susan Branford.  By good
    47        fortune, in terms of the public interest in this case, she
    48        had personal knowledge of the areas which had just been
    49        identified, which was all a chance chain of events really
    50        in terms of McDonald's having failed to fulfil, we believe, 
    51        their obligations, whether moral or legal, to provide 
    52        information to defend the counterclaim and to prosecute 
    53        their case.
    54
    55        So can I just say that if we had had that information, say
    56        for example about the areas of Gioias that we now know are
    57        particularly relevant, then we would have been able to get
    58        proper legal advice -- sorry, not legal -- legal and expert
    59        advice, where we were unable to get such advice and give
    60        testimony from our other witnesses, Fiona Watson, George

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