Day 292 - 01 Nov 96 - Page 03


     
     1        I do not really know, but I just think we all have some
     2        idea of how long the process takes yesterday when
     3        Mr. Rampton said that his closing speech was not yet ready,
     4        but that he was hoping to have it ready by 22nd November.
     5        Obviously, that is four months after we broke up and he has
     6        a great deal of experience on how to prepare a closing
     7        speech and the structure of it, plus he has a whole legal
     8        team helping him with the preparations who are all familiar
     9        with the issues in the case.
    10
    11        Then he says that with the massive document that he was
    12        going to hand in, he still might take 10 days.  So I think
    13        that is probably a good indication of how long the process
    14        takes and how long it is likely to be in court.  But,
    15        obviously, because we have not got any previous experience
    16        of closing speeches ----
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   There are really about nine or ten topics,
    19        so Mr. Rampton is allowing himself about a day on each.
    20        I would have thought, whatever Mr. Rampton thought he would
    21        take, if he added another three days for interruptions by
    22        me, that is probably as realistic as he can be.
    23
    24        I will tell you what I have in mind, and I think it might
    25        be best if I do actually give formal directions on it,
    26        probably on Monday morning, when I have had a chance to see
    27        how Mr. Morris has gone today and can sit down over the
    28        weekend and re-assess the whole matter.
    29
    30        What I have in mind at the moment, because I also actually
    31        think it would positively help you if you have some time
    32        strictures, as indeed it did with cross-examination, I
    33        believe, on the few occasions when I did give time limits,
    34        the idea I have at the moment, and I am going to say it now
    35        because part of it affects Mr. Rampton, and it is that I
    36        think if I allowed you two days each on what I see as the
    37        less copious issues of recycling and waste, food poisoning,
    38        advertising, publication, that is a day each
    39
    40   MS. STEEL:  Sorry?
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:.  Publication, two days.  That is a day each,
    43        because a lot of the comment you might want to make, for
    44        instance about reliability of witnesses, is common, but you
    45        are in separate positions there.  Counterclaim the same.
    46
    47        But then say nutrition and employment are rather larger
    48        issues and allow three days for each of those.  If you are
    49        shorter on one topic, then you have earned yourself to be
    50        quite happy to consider that you might have more on
    51        another.
    52
    53        I have this extra thought in my mind: I expressed a view
    54        yesterday afternoon about reading out parts of transcripts,
    55        and I do not see any alternative to that view.  What occurs
    56        to me might be useful is that insofar as you have
    57        particular parts of transcript you want to refer me to --
    58        and you will remember what I said about having a list of
    59        days and pages, lines if you can get them, but that is much
    60        less important, days and pages down one side of the page

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