Day 293 - 04 Nov 96 - Page 10

     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   I did read them yesterday.
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     4   MR. MORRIS:   Yes.  The Hopkins one is virtually what I said
     5        anyway.  The Mallinson one, to get that out of the way, the
     6        Mallinson one is basically giving the references for the
     7        points in which he accepted our case.  In effect, we would
     8        say he accepted our case.  His basic view was that it was
     9        getting better and that the timber industry has become more
    10        environmentally aware.  We would say, in any event, that
    11        since the alleged distribution of the fact sheets.  For
    12        example, with Mr. Mallinson, in the second paragraph on
    13        that page, he admitted that "ecological sustainability" was
    14        seldom if ever on the agenda of either government or
    15        industrial organisations before 1988, 1989, and that
    16        sustainability should be not just a question of the amount
    17        of trees physically available in a forest or in a country,
    18        but it was a question of being sustainably managed to meet
    19        the social, ecological, economic and spiritual needs of
    20        present and future generations.  That was a direct quote.
         So I will not read any more of Mr. Mallinson's-----
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    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.
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    25   MR. MORRIS:   Just some further points about Mr. Van Erp.  I
    26        have not got the reference for this, but there is a direct
    27        quote from him.  He said, "McDonald's had quite a bad name
    28        image", environmental literature in the '80s, but had
    29        "succeeded to move that around, that image, to quite a
    30        positive one."
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    32        Regarding Germany, I think I made a reference to this, he
    33        said, "People did not want new waste disposal sites or
    34        incineration sites close to their place... so they are
    35        running out of landfill space". The point about landfill
    36        space, it is not a question of are they all full up and
    37        therefore we should stop producing waste packaging, which
    38        is Mr. Oakley's line, but that people do not want them and
    39        they are something to be discouraged in any event, landfill
    40        sites, particularly for environmental reasons.  So that is
         basically that.
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    43        A few extra European points, which I had not dealt with.
    44        Both Professor Duxbury and Mr. Lippsett pointed out, of
    45        course, that pentane blowing agent contributes to smog
    46        formation and the greenhouse effect, and that is the
    47        current blowing agent for McDonald's Polystyrene packaging
    48        in this country.  Professor Duxbury further on the subject
    49         -- sorry, just to get him out of the way -- recognised
    50        that one sixth of methane emissions in the world originated 
    51        from cattle, and methane was a significant cause of global 
    52        warming. 
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    54        Just to confirm on Mr. Van Erp's overview, there was an
    55        appendix 2 on his statement which had an executive summary
    56        on page handwritten 7, and it said that apart from the
    57        uncoated paper and board "no use was made of recycled
    58        materials in any of the other products", and this was in
    59        1992 so far as I can see.  But that can be looked at.
    60        There was some confusion, because - anyway, it is all