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- CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
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- Reported by Tony Bates/RIPE
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- Minutes of the Generic Internet Service Specification BOF (GISS)
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- Agenda
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- o Short presentation of GISS work so far
- o Discussion of whether a working group is needed
- o Review of proposed working charter
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- It was noted that the attendance at this meeting was quite low.
- However, this can, in part, be attributed to an unfortunate timing clash
- with the most popular session of the IETF - the IPng Decision Process
- BOF (IPDECIDE).
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- GISS Work Presentation
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- Tony Bates gave a presentation of the current GISS work. The document
- has changed quite dramatically since the last BOF meeting. A second
- draft is available from:
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- ftp.ripe.net:ripe/docs/ripe-drafts/giss.[txt,ps]
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- The major changes are in the focus and structure of the document. The
- document is aimed at service providers. Six areas of GISS have been
- highlighted:
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- 1. Access
- 2. Generic Services
- 3. Connectivity
- 4. Operations
- 5. Information Provision and Coordination
- 6. Security
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- Currently 38 aspects have been highlighted in the first cut of GISS.
- Many are still to be completed. The intention is to have aspects
- contributed by relevant experts rather than the authors themselves. The
- structure of the document is very much like a UNIX manual page, making
- it easy to index only the GISS aspects of direct interest. It was
- agreed that the current areas and aspects were more than enough for a
- first GISS document.
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- An issue was raised as to whether GISS could in fact be renamed to GISD
- ``Generic Internet Service Description'' as is intimated in the document
- itself. It was agreed that the next draft and all future work will be
- referred to as GISD.
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- Working Group Discussion
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- The issue of whether a working group is needed was discussed. The clear
- consensus was that such a document is badly needed by service providers.
- It was felt the correct forum should be some sort of ``operators'' forum
- rather than the IETF itself. However, such a group doesn't really
- exist, at least in a global context. In Europe, RIPE is such a group
- and a GISS-based working group will continue within RIPE. Andrew Partan
- also mentioned the possibility of such an operators forum being formed
- in North America. However, until such time, the IETF seems to contain
- the correct target audience, or to be more precise, many service
- providers also attend the IETF.
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- It was agreed that the chair would request that a GISD Working Group be
- formed within the Operations Area once the charter has been accepted by
- the group. A request along with the charter would be sent to Scott
- Bradner.
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- Proposed Working Group Charter Review
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- The charter was circulated. Apart from typographical changes and
- changes in wording (to make it clear that providers meant all forms of
- service providers, not just commercial), the charter was accepted.
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- o Name: Generic Internet Service Description (GISD)
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- o Chairs: Tony Bates and Daniel Karrenberg
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- o Mailing Lists:
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- - General Discussion: giss-wg@ripe.net
- - To Subscribe: giss-wg-request@ripe.net
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- o Description:
- GISD collects short descriptions of Internet service aspects.
- Internet service in GISD means the interaction of Internet service
- providers among themselves and with their users. GISD aims to
- provide a common frame of reference and vocabulary to talk about an
- Internet service. For each aspect of the Internet service, it
- describes different options for service provision in use in the
- current Internet. GISD is merely descriptive and does not
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- proscribe or mandate. GISD is intended to be a living document
- collecting work of many contributors.
- The GISD Working Group will update and revise the GISD document to
- assist network service providers in a better understanding and
- description of what Internet service means. It will:
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- - Update and revise the GISD document that lists the areas and
- aspects of interest to TCP/IP network service providers.
- - Identify additional GISD areas and aspects appropriate to GISD.
- - Identify areas of overlap with other IETF working groups.
- - Create a reference document of GISD terms.
- - Establish procedures to ensure the ongoing maintenance of the
- document and identify an organisation willing to do it.
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- o Goals and Milestones:
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- - Review current GISD draft and add any additional areas and
- aspects deamed to be essential.
- - Draft of GISD will be prepared, reviewed and modified.
- Initiate IETF Internet-Draft review process by submission of
- the GISD document to the IETF Secretariat.
- - Follow-up with final amendments to the document and the
- submission of the document to the RFC Editor for publication as
- an FYI RFC.
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- Attendees
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- Tony Bates tony@ripe.net
- David Conrad davidc@iij.ad.jp
- Ola Johansson ojn@se.ubn.net
- Daniel Karrenberg daniel@ripe.net
- Anne Lord anne@ripe.net
- Andrew Partan asp@uunet.uu.net
- Marten Terpstra marten@ripe.net
- Wilfried Woeber Wilfried.Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at
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