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- Minutes from the RWhois Working group
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- Reported by: Mark Kosters and Scott Williamson
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- Integration of the InterNIC's Guardian object was discussed. Mark
- Kosters gave a presentation on how it would be hooked into the current
- RWhois protocol. The question was asked "can there be multiple
- guardians?" the answer was yes.
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- Scott Williamson lead the group through a general discussion related
- to RWhois operation.
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- The issue of hierarchical handles was discussed. It is important that
- object handles be globally unique. The issue of notification was
- discussed. There are several issues regarding the implementation of
- notification which is currently used in the InterNIC's guardian.
- Notification is necessary to ensure that object's used by auto
- registrations such as a name server cause a notification to the owner of
- the server object.
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- The issue of non-hierarchical data discovery was discussed. A solution
- will be necessary for use in areas such as the .us domain ( to find the
- domain for a company by name ). The current thinking is to feed the non-
- hierarchical data to an indexer (like CIP). There was great concern
- about the scaling for the indexing system described.
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- Interfaces into other database engines were discussed. The development
- team's concerns are speed and flexibility related to the current RWhois
- database. The database interfaces discussed were: oracle, ingres, and
- sybase. The group asked that we add msql and ra-addb.
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- The issue of inserting a server into a class tree was discussed. The
- current process is to get a referral template from ftp://rs.internic.net/
- templates/rwhois-template.txt, and send it to rwhoisreg@internic.net.
- Once received, the template will generate a referral object that will be
- added to the RWhois root. Each referral must have an SOA record that
- defines the authority area.
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- An update of the InterNIC's RWhois tree status was given. The
- InterNIC RWhois root (root for domain and network classes) contains
- over 1.7 million objects and has distinct referral objects to over 45
- servers, each with several authority areas. A pull-up tool has been
- written to facilitate the collection of data related to the IP space.
- However, for this tool to work correctly it is important to establish
- SOA records in each server that are referred to by the root server.
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- NSI has established a development team whose primary effort is to
- stabilize the current public domain RWhois server and build a reliable
- root infrastructure for the InterNIC data. A cut of the NSI RWhois
- server (Version 1.0 beta 8) has an estimated release date of July 8. The
- focus of this release is the enhancement of the indexer.
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- There was some discussion about the performance of a hierarchical
- system with a single root. This area needs a lot of work. The
- development team's approach so far has included a strong secondary
- mechanism to allow multiple distributed roots, and the ability to cache
- the referrals down the tree.
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- The next major release is expected to contain non-hierarchical support,
- secondary server support, and guardian integration. We also discussed
- the need for multiple roots for each class tree.
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- During the free discussion the following topics were discussed:
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- The group noted that we need to ensure security for secondary
- operations.
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- It was noted that you can go sideways if you cache referrals further
- down the tree.
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- The group noted that it may be very important to cache referrals to the
- closest ancestor so that roots don't get overwhelmed.
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- It was suggested that DNS should be used when ever possible to ensure
- that the RWhois root doesn't get hit too much.
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- The development team was also advised to watch out for being flat on
- non-hierarchical data.
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- There was also some discussion about not pleasing "all the people all
- the time."
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- The group felt that indexing non-hierarchical data is not necessarily
- our problem.
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- Scott and Mark explained the Max hits in the RWhois server. This
- doesn't mean that the sever can't hold more data, but that a wild card
- type search has resulted in a number of hits that exceed the number
- allowed by the server.
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- The group also discussed privacy of data briefly. We agreed that it is
- an issue, but is being discussed in several other groups around the IETF.
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- The development team noted that a near term goal was to make the
- RWhois server easier to install.
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- The group requested tools to convert from the ripe database format to
- RWhois.
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