SENATOR PERKINS: Twenty lifeboats, with a capacity of about 60, a sea boat, and a collapsible ­ let us call the average 60; it would be about 1,200 passengers and crew they were capable of carrying?
MR. PITMAN: Yes.
SENATOR PERKINS: Therefore, she had life­saving appliances for only about one­half of the passengers and crew?
MR. PITMAN: All these details can be got from the builders, I suppose.
SENATOR PERKINS: She had a certificate from the board of trade in London or Liverpool, did she not?
MR. PITMAN: The British Board of Trade, issued from London, I suppose.
SENATOR BURTON: Are you quite sure, Mr. Pitman, that you saw a white light ahead?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; but I am not certain what it was attached to. It may have been one of our own boats.
SENATOR BURTON: That is, one of the lifeboats that had been cut loose?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; one of the lifeboats.
SENATOR BURTON: Could you not tell whether it was a steamer or sailing vessel coming on your course, or whether it was a floating lifeboat there right near at hand?
MR. PITMAN: No; because there was no motion in it, no movement.
SENATOR BURTON: Whatever it was, it was not moving?
MR. PITMAN: Not moving.
SENATOR BURTON: How long was it visible?
MR. PITMAN: I really could not say; I did not really take any notice of it.
SENATOR BURTON: When did you first see it?
MR. PITMAN: It may have been 1 o'clock or half past 1. One of my men called my attention to the white light over there.
SENATOR BURTON: How far distant did it seem to be?
MR. PITMAN: It may have been 3 miles.
SENATOR BURTON: You did not see the red light on the starboard side?
MR. PITMAN: No; I did not.
SENATOR BURTON: You did not think, then, that that was a steamer or a sailing vessel coming?
MR. PITMAN: No; I did not sir.
SENATOR BURTON: I believe that is all.
SENATOR NEWLANDS: What is the fastest ship you have ever sailed on?
MR. PITMAN: The Titanic, sir.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Who was the chief officer of the Titanic?
MR. PITMAN: Mr. Wilde.
SENATOR FLETCHER: And there were how many other officers?
MR. PITMAN: Six.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You designate them as the chief officer, and then the first, second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth?
MR. PITMAN: Exactly.
SENATOR FLETCHER: What are the duties of the chief officer?
MR. PITMAN: He keeps his watch the same as the others, the same as the first and second, sir.
SENATOR FLETCHER: What became of him?
MR. PITMAN: He went with the rest.
SENATOR FLETCHER: When did you see him last, and where?
MR. PITMAN: I can not recollect seeing him at all, sir.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You do not remember seeing him at all that Sunday night?
MR. PITMAN: Not after 8 p.m.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Was he on duty at all?
MR. PITMAN: No; not from 6. He was due on watch at 2 a.m.
SENATOR FLETCHER: And he went off watch when?
MR. PITMAN: At 6 p.m.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You did not see him about the ship at all after the accident?
MR. PITMAN: I did not, sir; no.
SENATOR FLETCHER: And then the first officer was who?
MR. PITMAN: Mr. Murdock.
SENATOR FLETCHER: And you testified about seeing him last when you lowered boat No. 5?
MR. PITMAN: Exactly.
SENATOR FLETCHER: When did he go on duty that night?
MR. PITMAN: He was on duty then, at the time of the accident; at 10 o'clock he went on.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Who was the second officer?
MR. PITMAN: Mr. Lightoller.
SENATOR FLETCHER: When did he go on duty?
MR. PITMAN: He had left the bridge at 10; he was on duty from 6 to 10.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You saw him about the decks after the accident?
MR. PITMAN: No; I can not say that I did, because he was on the opposite side of the ship from me. I was on the starboard side and he was on the port side. I did see him once on the port side; yes.
SENATOR FLETCHER: What was he doing when you saw him?
MR. PITMAN: Superintending the clearing away of the boats.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Did you see him any other time except at that moment when he was superintending the clearing of the boats?
MR. PITMAN: No; I did not see him after that. The next time I saw him was when we came alongside of the Carpathia?
SENATOR FLETCHER: What were his duties?
MR. PITMAN: The same as the first.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Where did he belong at that time? What was his particular place on the ship?
MR. PITMAN: At the time of the accident?
SENATOR FLETCHER: Yes.
MR. PITMAN: He was off watch then; he was in bed.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Were his quarters close to yours?
MR. PITMAN: Next door.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You did not see him when you got up and went out, when you first heard of the accident?
MR. PITMAN: I saw him when I was coming back; on my return.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Did you hear him give any orders or directions or instructions, or anybody give him instructions or orders?
MR. PITMAN: No; we were inside, in our own quarters then.
SENATOR FLETCHER: But after that?
MR. PITMAN: No; I did not. I was not in his company after that.
SENATOR FLETCHER: The next officer was who?
MR. PITMAN: Myself.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You were in charge of boat No. 5?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir.
SENATOR FLETCHER: What were your duties in connection with that boat?
MR. PITMAN: Simply to get it out and get the people into it, and get her away.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Is the officer in charge of the boat expected to go with the boat if it leaves the ship?
MR. PITMAN: Not necessarily so.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Is it his duty to see that the boat is properly loaded?
MR. PITMAN: The senior officer will see to that, superintending the lowering of the boats.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Who was the senior officer that night?
MR. PITMAN: Mr. Murdock was the senior officer on that side.
SENATOR FLETCHER: After the boat is lowered and in command of the officer who is placed in command of it, it is his duty to direct the movement of the boat, is it not?
MR. PITMAN: Exactly.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Irrespective of any suggestions or demands of passengers or crew?
MR. PITMAN: Yes.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Can you draw just a rough diagram showing the location of those boats on the ship?
MR. PITMAN: I can show you a photograph of it that would be better than a drawing. I am not a very good hand at that.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You can show a photograph showing the location of the boats, and their numbers?
MR. PITMAN: I can. [Handing photograph.]
SENATOR FLETCHER: Start, for instance­­
MR. PITMAN: Forward?
SENATOR FLETCHER: Forward. You are looking at the stern here, are you not? How are the boats numbered on the starboard?
MR. PITMAN: Even numbers on one side and odd numbers the other.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Which is which?
MR. PITMAN: The port side would be No. 2.
SENATOR SMITH: Witness, just number the boats on this diagram [handing witness diagram].
SENATOR FLETCHER: How are they numbered?
MR. PITMAN: Even numbers port side and odd numbers starboard side.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Beginning on the starboard side, you commence with No. 1, the emergency boat, do you not?
MR. PITMAN: With No. 1.
SENATOR FLETCHER: That is the emergency boat, is it not?
MR. PITMAN: Emergency; yes.
SENATOR FLETCHER: That boat is swung away from the ship?
MR. PITMAN: It is always swung out.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Then the next one to that would be No. 3; that is a lifeboat?
MR. PITMAN: Nos. 3,5,7,9,11,13 and 15; this is the starboard side.
SENATOR FLETCHER: On the port side you would begin with No. 2, the emergency boat?
MR. PITMAN: Nos. 2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16. There are no numbers given to the collapsibles.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Where are the collapsible boats placed?
MR. PITMAN: Close by the bridge.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Under what numbers?
MR. PITMAN: Under Nos. 1 and 2.
SENATOR FLETCHER: The collapsibles are placed under Nos. 1 and 2?
MR. PITMAN: Two of them are.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Then there are four of these?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; the other two of them are close by the funnel.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Under Nos. 4 and 6?
MR. PITMAN: Abreast of Nos. 3 and 4.
SENATOR FLETCHER: On the house?
MR. PITMAN: On the officers' house.
SENATOR FLETCHER: What officer had charge of No. 7?
MR. PITMAN: There was no officer in that boat.
SENATOR FLETCHER: What officer was assigned to No. 7?
MR. PITMAN: No officer was assigned to it ­ a petty officer.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Whose station was it?
MR. PITMAN: I can not remember them all.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You stated at one time that the fifth and sixth officers were placed in charge of boats, did you not?
MR. PITMAN: That was at Southampton.
SENATOR FLETCHER: How about on the voyage?
MR. PITMAN: We were each allotted a boat.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You do not remember what officer was assigned to No. 7?
MR. PITMAN: No.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You testified that Mr. Murdock superintended the loading of No. 7, did you not?
MR. PITMAN: Yes.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Whom did he place in charge of the boat when it was loaded?
MR. PITMAN: A quartermaster, I think.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Did he continue in charge? Did he go with the boat?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, yes.
SENATOR FLETCHER: He went with the boat?
MR. PITMAN: He went with the boat.
SENATOR FLETCHER: What assistants did he have in that boat?
MR. PITMAN: Two or three more of the crew there with him. What rating they were I can not say.
SENATOR FLETCHER: I understood you to say that after you reached the water and found No. 7 and attached your boat to her, there was no officer in charge of her ­ no one able to row her?
MR. PITMAN: I did not, sir. No; I said there was no officer there.
SENATOR FLETCHER: I am talking about No. 7, the lifeboat.
MR. PITMAN: There was a quartermaster in charge.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Who were the people in No. 7?
MR. PITMAN: What do you mean ­ the passengers or the crew?
SENATOR FLETCHER: Everybody.
MR. PITMAN: I have not the slightest idea who the people were in her.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You saw her the next morning?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; but I do not know one passenger in a thousand.
SENATOR FLETCHER: No; but I mean, speaking generally, with reference to the men, women and children, how many were in the boat?
MR. PITMAN: I really could not say.
SENATOR FLETCHER: I understood you to say that when No. 7 reached the water you afterwards had her attached to your boat, because there was nobody in her to row No. 7.
MR. PITMAN: No; not to row it. My idea of lashing together was to keep together, so that if nothing hove in sight before daylight we could steady ourselves and cause a far bigger show than one boat only and with far more hope of being picked up. That was my idea in hanging together.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Do you know how many oarsmen there were in No. 7?
MR. PITMAN: I do not, sir.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Were there plenty of capable oarsmen in No. 7 to navigate her?
MR. PITMAN: I do not know anything about the crew in No. 7 at all.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Notwithstanding she was right alongside of you?
MR. PITMAN: No; I do not.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Did you notice her when she was unloaded on the Carpathia?
MR. PITMAN: No; I did not, sir.
SENATOR FLETCHER: How long after you boat was reached by the Carpathia was it before No. 7 was reached?
MR. PITMAN: It may have been 20 minutes. I did not assist in unloading No. 7.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Why did you place on No. 7 two men, as you have stated?
MR. PITMAN: Two passengers, that was.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Two passengers?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Why did you do that?
MR. PITMAN: Simply to even them up a bit.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You had plenty of room your boat for all you had, and for more?
MR. PITMAN: I could have taken a few more in my boat.
SENATOR FLETCHER: And still you insisted that No. 7 should take two of your men and a woman and a child?
MR. PITMAN: I did not insist. They wished to do it, and so I let them go.
SENATOR FLETCHER: They asked to do that?
MR. PITMAN: They asked.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Do you know who was in charge of No. 7; who was commanding No. 7?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir; I do not.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Was it a member of the crew?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, yes; a member of the crew; a quartermaster as far as I can recollect.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You do not remember his name?
MR. PITMAN: All the men were new to me, practically.
SENATOR FLETCHER: They did not want these men to assist in the oar work of No. 7, then?
MR. PITMAN: No; there was no oar work to be done, anyhow; they did not know where to pull to at that time.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Saturday night, or Sunday morning, you said you heard of the icebergs. Did not the commander post notice or warning with regard to icebergs in the chart room, where the officers could see it?
MR. PITMAN: He had it in his own navigating room, and he also gave some one the position to put on the chart, which Mr. Boxhall did, I think.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Are the Marconigrams posted generally in the chart room?
MR. PITMAN: They are always accessible.
SENATOR FLETCHER: To all the officers?
MR. PITMAN: Generally speaking, yes. Each commander has a different system.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Is there not a sort of deck log kept by the officers?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, yes.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Where these matters, warnings as to icebergs, and things like that, would be noted?
MR. PITMAN: They are stuck on the notice board. We have a notice board, a blackboard. They stick them on there.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Do you remember whether any such notice or warning was posted on this blackboard prior to Sunday or during Sunday?
MR. PITMAN: Not to my knowledge.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You do not recall?
MR. PITMAN: There is one position they put on the chart. I can recollect that.
SENATOR FLETCHER: That position was indicated on the chart by Mr. Boxhall?
MR. PITMAN: I think it was Mr. Boxhall.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You do not remember exactly when that was done?
MR. PITMAN: No.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You do remember that the chart showed icebergs off the route or track?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; away to the north of the track.
SENATOR FLETCHER: How do you know what was the proper track or route of the ship?
MR. PITMAN: How do I know it?
SENATOR FLETCHER: Yes.
MR. PITMAN: It is simply laid down for us.
SENATOR FLETCHER: Laid down on the chart?
MR. PITMAN: Yes.
SENATOR FLETCHER: And how do you know you were precisely where the chart showed the track to be?
MR. PITMAN: Because we got observations at half past 7 that night.
SENATOR FLETCHER: You knew that from your observations?
MR. PITMAN: Yes.
SENATOR FLETCHER: And you could see that this iceberg, as noted, was off the track, and off the route you were traveling?
