MR. CUNNINGHAM: Then there was a fireman there, as well.
SENATOR SMITH: What was his name?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: A fellow called Smith ­ F. Smith.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you see any other man in the boat?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes. I think there was one of the galley hands; I am not quite sure.
SENATOR SMITH: What was his name?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I do not know. The reason I know the names of any of them is that Mrs. Cummings, one of my passengers, sent me around to find out who was in the boat. Otherwise I would not know their names.
SENATOR SMITH: In addition to that fireman, were there any other male passengers in that boat?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes; I think there was another fireman in the bottom of the boat; and besides that there was my mate, who died just after he was pulled in.
SENATOR SMITH: How many women were in that boat?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I could not tell you.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you count them?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: They were fairly well crowded. I could not count them. There was not room to row.
SENATOR SMITH: What boat was it?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: No. 4 boat, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Who was in charge of it?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: The quartermaster, Perkis.
SENATOR SMITH: You say you found Hemmings in the boat?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Hemmings was in the boat, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Do you know where he reached the boat?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I do not know where he got in, but he himself has told me that he was picked up.
SENATOR SMITH: He swam to the side of the boat?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: He swam to the side of the boat.
SENATOR SMITH: Without a life preserver 200 yards and climbed into this boat?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I do not know whether he had a life preserver on or not.
SENATOR SMITH: I wish you would tell me accurately, if you can, or approximately, how many ladies were in that boat, and how many children were in it.
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I should say there were 40 ladies in that boat.
SENATOR SMITH: Were there any children?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I did not see any.
SENATOR SMITH: Was it the large lifeboat?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes; one of the large ones.
SENATOR SMITH: How many people do you understand a lifeboat of that size is intended to hold on a calm night with an unruffled sea?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I think 60 would be enough.
SENATOR SMITH: And yours had 48 in it?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Of course, we picked up another man after I was picked up.
SENATOR SMITH: When you were picked up?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Just after.
SENATOR SMITH: They picked up you and your mate and another man?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Another man, yes; one of the storekeepers.
SENATOR SMITH: That makes 49 in there. You have not yet said whether there were any male passengers.
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I never saw any male passengers.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you hear the testimony of Hemmings, that 15 minutes after the ship struck this iceberg his mate came to his room and aroused him and told him he had but 15 minutes to live; that this information came from Mr. Andrews, the builder of the ship, and to say nothing to anyone?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: No. I never heard that until I saw it in the papers; last night I think it was.
SENATOR SMITH: Did Mr. Hemmings say anything to you about that?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: How do you account for a large proportion of those in that lifeboat being members of your crew and no male passengers at all?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Well, as far as I understand, when the boat left the ship's side there were only about three sailors in it, three men to man the boat; the rest were picked up.
SENATOR SMITH: How do you know there were only three in it? You were not there when it was loaded, but you joined this boat out away from the Titanic. Did somebody tell you?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: There were only eight or nine men in it altogether.
SENATOR SMITH: I understand that.
MR. CUNNINGHAM: The majority of them were picked up out of the water.
SENATOR SMITH: Not after you got aboard?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: When I come in the boat there was Smith, a fireman; another fireman whose name I do not know; Hemmings; Foley; and the quartermaster.
SENATOR SMITH: Yourself and your mate, and you picked up another man?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes; Prentiss, the storekeeper.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you see the barber, Mr. Whitman, in your boat?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, sir; he was not in our boat.
SENATOR SMITH: But this storekeeper you recall?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I recall him.
SENATOR SMITH: Did any other person, man or woman, attempt to enter lifeboat No. 4 after you got into it?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I never saw any, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did the officer in charge of lifeboat No.4 attempt to go to any persons in the water?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I think his was the nearest to the scene of the accident, because he picked up most of the lot, I think.
SENATOR SMITH: But he was some distance off, in order to avoid the suction?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: He was some distance off.
SENATOR SMITH: What did you next do?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Well, as soon as I got into the boat, I took an oar, and we rowed about until morning until we sighted the Carpathia.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you row away from the scene of the wreck, in the direction of the Carpathia?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: We rowed in the direction of the Carpathia.
SENATOR SMITH: Away from the scene of the wreck?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Away from the scene of the wreck.
SENATOR SMITH: And did you row all night?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Up until about half past 7 in the morning, when we went on board the Carpathia.
SENATOR SMITH: So that you did not lie on your oars there and drift; you went in the direction of the relief?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Of the relief, as soon as we saw it.
SENATOR SMITH: How far could you sight it?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: It might have been 4 or 5 miles off.
SENATOR SMITH: Did all the passengers, or all the people in your boat, No. 4, reach the Carpathia alive?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: All alive, sir. Of course, we took the two dead men with us. They were taken on board.
SENATOR SMITH: While you were in the water that night did you suffer from the cold?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes, sir; it was very cold.
SENATOR SMITH: Bitter cold?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Bitter cold; nearly freezing, I should think.
SENATOR SMITH: You had a regular station on the ship, did you not?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: On the ship; yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: In time of trouble?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Where was your station?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I think it was No. 7 boat, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: On the starboard side?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes; on the starboard side.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you respond to your station when you first heard of the accident?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Go up to the boat, sir?
SENATOR SMITH: Yes.
MR. CUNNINGHAM: No; I did not.
SENATOR SMITH: Why not?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I waited down in my rooms, closed them all and shut off the lights and went on deck. When I went up there that boat had gone, I think.
SENATOR SMITH: No. 7 had gone?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: No. 7 had gone.
SENATOR SMITH: Did No. 4 have a lamp on it?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I do not think so, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did it have water and food?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: It had water, I know.
SENATOR SMITH: Any food?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: There may have been food forward; but I never heard anyone ask for food. I know there was a tank in the forward part. There was water there.
SENATOR SMITH: What was your mate's name?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: A man called Sidney Seibert.
SENATOR SMITH: So far as you know, did the boat list provide for all the crew and all the passengers?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: the boat list is only posted up for the crew, not of the first­class passengers. It is only stationed there for the stewards and the galley hands. Of course, there was another list stationed in the firemen's forecastle for the firemen to see, and also one stationed for the sailors to see, in their own forecastle. They were quite distinct from our lists.
SENATOR SMITH: Was your list posted in its proper place?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: It was posted in its proper place in the pantry.
SENATOR SMITH: You had no drills between Southampton and the place of the wreck?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, sir; only fire drill.
SENATOR SMITH: What did that consist of?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Getting the hose out and seeing that everything was all right.
SENATOR SMITH: Taking the hose out?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Your mate did not survive?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: I wish you would tell the committee the signal that calls you to your station in case of an emergency.
MR. CUNNINGHAM: We have not any regular signal, sir. You mean to the boat station?
SENATOR SMITH: Yes.
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Oh, that is a blast of the whistled from the bridge; one long blast of the whistle.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you hear a blast of the whistle giving the signal that night?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: No, sir; it is very hard to hear, you know, when you are between decks.
SENATOR SMITH: It is expected you will hear it, is it not?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Did I expect to hear it, sir?
SENATOR SMITH: It is expected you will hear that signal?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: I believe so, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you see any icebergs that morning as you were rowing toward the Carpathia?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: Yes, sir; three or four, sir; and a long field of ice.
SENATOR SMITH: All the passengers on life boat No. 4 were safely landed on the Carpathia?
MR. CUNNINGHAM: All safely landed, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: I think that is all.
Witness excused.
TESTIMONY OF FREDERICK D. RAY.
The witness was sworn by Senator Smith.
SENATOR SMITH: What is your full name?
MR. RAY: Frederick D. Ray.
SENATOR SMITH: Where do you live?
MR. RAY: No. 56 Palmer Park Avenue, Reading, Berks.
SENATOR SMITH: England?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: How old are you?
MR. RAY: Thirty­three.
SENATOR SMITH: Are you a man of family?
MR. RAY: No, sir; married.
SENATOR SMITH: What is your business?
MR. RAY: I was first­class steward on the Titanic.
SENATOR SMITH: What were your duties?
MR. RAY: To wait at the tables and see to the saloon generally. That is all.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you perform that service on the voyage from Southampton to the place of the wreck of the Titanic?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Were you on duty on Sunday?
MR. RAY: Not after 9 o'clock, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Sunday morning or evening?
MR. RAY: Evening.
SENATOR SMITH: Not after 9 o'clock?
MR. RAY: Not after 9 o'clock, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Up to that hour were you on duty?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Where?
MR. RAY: In the saloon.
SENATOR SMITH: Just give the location of that saloon on the ship.
MR. RAY: As near to the amidships as could be, I should imagine; about five decks down and between fore and aft; about amidships.
SENATOR SMITH: In the main saloon?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you know the captain of the Titanic by sight?
MR. RAY: Very well, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Was he in that saloon that night?
MR. RAY: I did not notice him, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Would you have notice him if he had been there?
MR. RAY: It is doubtful, sir. I was waiting on the starboard side, quite close to him, but I can not remember whether he was there at dinner that night or not. I did not make any point of remembering.
SENATOR SMITH: Was it his custom to come there?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Often?
MR. RAY: To most meals.
SENATOR SMITH: Did he dine there that night?
MR. RAY: I could not say, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Where was his table?
MR. RAY: In the center of the saloon; the sixth table on the forward end of the saloon; back toward the bow of the ship.
SENATOR SMITH: Did he have a personal waiter or steward of his own?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Who was he?
MR. RAY: A man named Phainten, I think it was; I am almost sure.
SENATOR SMITH: Did he survive?
MR. RAY: No, sir. He was last seen on the bridge, standing by the captain.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you see Mr. Ismay in the saloon that night?
MR. RAY: I did not notice him, sir. He was on the other side. I believe he had a table on the port side of the saloon, and I was waiting on the starboard side. It being a large saloon and there being a great number of people there, I would not have noticed him, because I would not go over to the other side of the saloon. I would go right up on the starboard side.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you know him by sight?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir; very well.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you know he was on board ship?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir; I have seen him on several occasions.
SENATOR SMITH: I think I understood you to say you did not whether the captain dined at his customary place that Sunday evening or not?
MR. RAY: Quite correct, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: If you can remember, whom did you serve on that voyage from Southampton to the place of the accident, if you know any by name?
MR. RAY: Who did I serve?
SENATOR SMITH: Yes.
MR. RAY: I waited on Maj. Butt, Mr. Moore, Mr. Millet, Mr. Clark and Mrs. Clark.
SENATOR SMITH: Any others?
MR. RAY: That is all, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: What time did they dine on Sunday night?
MR. RAY: Mr. Moore and Mr. Millet dined together about 7:30, and finished dinner about 8:15. Maj. Butt was not down, because he was dining in the restaurant.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you know with whom he was dining?
MR. RAY: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Have you since heard from anyone whether he was dining with the captain?
MR. RAY: No, sir. I heard since that he was dining with the Wideners. I do not know whether it is true or not, though, sir; that is only what I heard.
SENATOR SMITH: From whom did you hear that? Just to refresh your recollection, let me ask whether you understood from anybody that Mrs. Widener gave a dinner in the cafÈ that night, Sunday night, to the captain of the ship, Mr. and Mrs. Carter, Mr. and Mrs. Thayer, Harry Widener, jr., and Maj. Butt? Was this the report that you heard?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir. I think it was Mrs. Moore. I saw Mrs. Moore after I arrived here. I think it was. I heard Maj. Butt was dining with the Wideners. I did not hear it on the ship.
SENATOR SMITH: You do not know who waited on them in the cafÈ?
MR. RAY: No, sir. No survivor. There was only one survivor, I believe, from the restaurant.
SENATOR SMITH: Who was he?
MR. RAY: He was a scullion?
SENATOR SMITH: He was a dishwasher, was he not?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir; a dishwasher, to be more correct; and there were two lady clerks. They would probably remember. They are not here. They are survivors, but they have gone back to England.
SENATOR SMITH: You say none of the stewards in the cafÈ survived except­­
MR. RAY: [interrupting]. No stewards; the two lady clerks and the dishwasher.
SENATOR SMITH: How many people were employed in that cafÈ?
MR. RAY: I believe over 100. I do not know how many, but I think over 100.
SENATOR SMITH: Over 100 in the cafÈ?
MR. RAY: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: How many people were in the main saloon?
