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- ▒no ╚NATION, Page 14COVER STORIESA Clash of Visions
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- Clinton and Tsongas, one-on-one for the first time, debate their
- plans for economic revival
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- By LAURENCE I. BARRETT and STANLEY W. CLOUD/CHICAGO
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- Amid the furious negative ads Bill Clinton and Paul
- Tsongas have been firing at each other, it is easy to forget
- that a presidential campaign is supposed to be a contest over
- ideas. In TV spots, Tsongas has accused his rival of pandering
- and dishonesty, while Clinton has painted Tsongas as a
- hard-hearted crypto-Republican. Lost in the din is the fact that
- these two leading contenders for the Democratic nomination are
- charting a new direction for their party, moving it away from
- interest-group economics toward a new vision of American
- competitiveness.
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- The seriousness of that quest was underscored last week as
- Tsongas and Clinton met in an unprecedented one-on-one debate
- about economic issues arranged and moderated by TIME. Facing
- each other across a wooden table in a small conference room at
- Chicago's Midway Airport, the two rivals engaged in a
- freewheeling, hourlong dialogue on whose ideas can best restore
- the country's economic strength.
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- For both candidates, the debate came at a crucial moment.
- Clinton had just swept seven Southern- and Border-state contests
- on Super Tuesday, bringing his estimated delegate count to 763
- of the 2,145 needed for the nomination. Tsongas had carried only
- his home state of Massachusetts, plus tiny Rhode Island and
- Delaware, and was trailing Clinton by about 400 delegates. If
- Clinton can follow up this week with strong victories in the
- Illinois and Michigan primaries over Tsongas and ex-California
- Governor Jerry Brown, his lead could be insurmountable. The
- biggest threat to Clinton's momentum comes from a surprising
- source. In Michigan, union members who regard Clinton and
- Tsongas as hostile to organized labor have been flocking to
- Brown's anti-Establishment banner. Brown could siphon off enough
- votes from Clinton to slow him down, permitting Tsongas to fight
- on next month in New York and Pennsylvania.
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- Brown has made no pretense of matching the highly detailed
- economic plans that Clinton and Tsongas debated last week. The
- two candidates were in accord that national policy must shift
- drastically away from consumption toward investment in
- industrial innovation. They concurred that the Federal
- Government must play a large role in fostering that change,
- providing incentives for research and for ventures that can
- transform technological breakthroughs into profitable products.
- While diverging on details, both supported a capital-gains-tax
- reduction to promote job creation.
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- Sharp differences emerged. Tsongas depicted himself as the
- champion of deferred gratification and Clinton as a politician
- merely trying to win votes by promising tax relief for ordinary
- Americans. Tsongas argued that the middle-class tax cut and the
- tax credit for children younger than 18 -- both moves favored
- by Clinton -- would divert $55 billion a year from investment.
- In Tsongas' mashed metaphor, Clinton would waste precious
- "bullets" that could be used to jump-start the economy's
- manufacturing "engine." Only "when the engine runs," Tsongas
- said, can the country afford "other kinds of things," such as
- tax relief.
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- Clinton forcefully disagreed, declaring that his meld of
- tax cuts and his "laundry list" of targeted investment
- incentives would promote manufacturing while still "helping
- families raise their children and investing in education and
- training." He also suggested that Tsongas was proposing merely
- an updated version of Reaganomics. At times sounding defensive,
- Clinton noted similarities between his plan and Tsongas' and
- argued that the middle-class tax cut was only a minor part of
- his economic program. By constantly attacking the tax cut,
- Clinton said, Tsongas was appealing to upscale elitists -- a
- group, he pointedly noted, that includes the editorial writers
- who have endorsed his rival. Constant carping against the
- middle-class tax reduction makes Tsongas seem indifferent to the
- plight of the middle class. Yet many voters are likely to see
- the truth in Tsongas' assertion that "if you wish to live well,
- you must produce well."
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- Despite the economic erudition displayed by both
- candidates during the debate, the nasty sound-bite campaign was
- waiting to resume in the real political world outside. Both men
- were poised to unveil new negative ads. Near the end of their
- discussion, Tsongas challenged Clinton to call a truce. "Bill,"
- he said, "now that we are face to face, why don't we agree that
- all the TV we do from here on in ((will be about)) what we stand
- for?" Clinton declined, accusing Tsongas of posing in his ads
- as the "only truth teller" among the candidates.
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- Replied Tsongas: "I will take off any ad you don't like.
- What could be more fair than that?" Clinton would consent only
- to correct factual errors that were made in his ads. "I want to
- continue sharpening the differences [between us] for the
- American people," Clinton said.
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- The time may not be too distant when both men will choose
- to blur those differences. Some Democratic insiders are already
- starting to speculate about a Clinton-Tsongas ticket (or, less
- likely, a Tsongas-Clinton ticket). The prospect was touched upon
- briefly, if noncommittally, by the candidates themselves near
- the end of the TIME session. It is still too early for ticket
- talk. Even so, the pair debating seriously last week -- as
- opposed to the caricatures in campaign commercials -- could make
- a team that would pose a stiff challenge to the Bush-Quayle
- slate.
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