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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu,  1 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   37

Today's Topics:
                        A big THANK YOU!!!!!!!
                  CP/M machines hitting rock bottom?
                 Help with UUCP20I.LBR package, plea
                   New Drives for Kaypros (2 msgs)
                              Quatris?!
                          Several questions
                      Terminal Program for QX-10
                       ZCPR, Turbo Pascal, BYE
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Date: 27 Feb 90 22:25:18 GMT
From: uoft02![e-mail]
Subject: A big THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

hi there,

   i wanted to say thank you to everyone that replyed to me and gave me
   suggestions.  some of them worked and some didn't.  it turns out that
   i wasn't given some very crucial information with the problem.  it's
   exchanging everything nicely now (well fairly nicely).

   special thanks to:

           Lindy,
       Kevin,
       Jeff,
       D'Arcy,
       and
           Stephen

                              later,

                    janet
                    [e-mail]



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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 90 08:41 EST
From: "No, me?" <[e-mail]>
Subject: CP/M machines hitting rock bottom?

Hmmmm.....

I that case, could someone point me to a daisy-wheel printer for
under $100?  I need one for my Thesis; or I'll have to pay for the
laserprinting...   :-(

        -John

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Date: 1 Mar 90 17:40:42 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Help with UUCP20I.LBR package, plea
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In the -README file of QTERM.LBR, it states that files matching
"*.?Y?" are compressed using the LZH technique.  Something that
appears to handle this (and other formats) is LT29.COM (which is
from Simtel20's PD2:<CPM.ARC-LBR>LT29.LBR).  It also has the nice
feature that it will extract files from libraries and decompress them
on the fly from whatever format their in.  I haven't used LT29 a lot,
but it seems to work well on the few things that I have tried.

Joe Gering
([e-mail])

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Date: 26 Feb 90 16:31:25 GMT
From: ubc-cs!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink![e-mail]  (Curt Sampson)
Subject: New Drives for Kaypros
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> sergio writes:
> BTW, I think I need a couple of drives. Will any "single side" flopy
> drive do? (In other words, are this drives PC and Kaypro compatible or
> are they a special kind?).

The Kaypros (aside from the Robbie and other such creatures) use regular IBM
style drives.  You may have problems getting a single sided drive, in this case
just use a standard IBM 360K double sided drive, and the "extra" side will just
be ignored.  This also makes upgrading to double sided drives easier...
                -CJS    ( [e-mail] )

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Date: 26 Feb 90 16:31:25 GMT
From: ubc-cs!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink![e-mail]  (Curt Sampson)
Subject: New Drives for Kaypros
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> sergio writes:
> BTW, I think I need a couple of drives. Will any "single side" flopy
> drive do? (In other words, are this drives PC and Kaypro compatible or
> are they a special kind?).

The Kaypros (aside from the Robbie and other such creatures) use regular IBM
style drives.  You may have problems getting a single sided drive, in this case
just use a standard IBM 360K double sided drive, and the "extra" side will just
be ignored.  This also makes upgrading to double sided drives easier...
                -CJS    ( [e-mail] )

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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 90 08:52 EST
From: "No, me?" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quatris?!

Waaaaaahhhhhhhh!

If some of you remember, or if you don't, I posted a note long time ago
asking people if they knew of a place where I can get a decent game to
play of my QX-10.  Two people responded, and one of them gave me the
ones that he wrote.

I didn't hear of Quatris's existence until AFTER I wrote the first
version of Tetris.  Had I known earler, I would not have had to write
the whole spiel myself, while developing a perpetual jealosy for those
jolly ones enjoying life in the MacWorld downstairs.  (Last semester,
everyone in my apartment had a mac, except me, and they ALL had Tetris!)

Oh, well.  Now that it is done, and although I haven't seen Quatris, I
think my Tetris is better than Quatris  (?)   :-)  Pleas try it out.

Besides, the Division III process here, which I called a "thesis," is
more like a dissertation than a normal college Thesis.  Most people take
a whole year to do just that and nothing else.  I am doing it in one
semester, and programming, I find, and gaming are the one of the good
ways of stress relief I know of.  Hey, think of the fringe benefits
for you (coming up: a pacman!  And, don't tell me you just saw one in
Simtel yesterday... :-)   )  !!!

    -John

(Note:  This was meant to be for someone with "ATT" in the address, but I
lost his address.  Sorry...)

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Date: 27 Feb 90 14:08:41 GMT
From: voder!thoreau![e-mail]  (Ron Todd)
Subject: Several questions
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Recent posting asks if Turbo Pascal is still available
for CP/M, the answer is YES.  A few months ago I finally took
the plunge.  The source is

   Elliam Associates
   PO Box 6922
   Los Osos, CA  93412

      Phone:  [phone]

They have a huge amount of stuff for CP/M, ask for their catalog.

The price for Turbo Pascal was $60.00 and it was version 3.1.

Ron Todd (National Semiconductor, South Portland, Maine)

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Date: 1 Mar 90 04:01:19 GMT
From: mintaka!ogicse!emory!mephisto!prism![e-mail]  (S. Keith Graham)
Subject: Terminal Program for QX-10
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have recently upgraded my modem to 2400 baud.

The old program I was using (Crosstalk) can't seem to keep up.

So I suppose its time for me to upgrade to something written this
decade.

Any suggestions?   (About all I have right now is the software
that came with the QX-10, and Crosstalk.  I acquired this machine
mostly for use as a terminal.)

Keith Graham
Novice CP/M user
--
Keith Graham
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:     ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!ccastkg
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 90 13:30:48 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ZCPR, Turbo Pascal, BYE

Gary P. Gray asked:

    A) Is ZCPR a public domain (or shareware) program?
    B) Is ZCPR worth bothering with on a non-hardisk system...
    C) Is Turbo Pascal still available for CPM?
    D) What is the bye program?

   As the author of the most recent versions of ZCPR, I think I can answer
(A): yes and no.  Versions of ZCPR up to and including version 3.3, though
copyrighted, may be used freely for noncommercial purposes.  Version 3.4 is
available commercially only.  However, all of these ZCPR versions work only
on CP/M-2.2 computers and require modifications to the BIOS to install them.
The modern way to install ZCPR (now called Z-System) is with the commercial
programs NZCOM (for CP/M-2.2 systems) and Z3PLUS (for CP/M-Plus systems).
They install (and remove) automatically under the host CP/M system, and they
offer a great deal more flexibility.

   In my opinion, the answer to (B) is yes.  At the time I developed ZCPR31
(and perhaps even the first cuts at ZCPR33), I did not own a computer with a
hard disk.  Z-System is much nicer with a hard disk (and a RAM disk), but
what software isn't!  There are plenty of people using Z-System on floppy-
only computers, and there are tricks that can significantly improve
performance under those circumstances.

   The answer to (C) is also yes.  It even comes with a nice, new, loose-
leaf manual (yea! we can leave it open to a page while working).

   BYE is a resident system extension program that allows the computer to
operate as a remote-access system.  Basically, BYE handles answering calls
and redirecting console I/O through the modem port.  I wrote about BYE in
one of my columns in The Computer Journal, and the file (TCJ##.WZ or
TCJ##.MZG) should be available from SIMTEL20 or Royal Oak (and surely must
be on my Z-Node BBS).  Unfortunately, I do not remember the volume number
(## in above file name templates).

-- Jay Sage

Disclaimer: I am not a disinterested party regarding ZCPR, Z-System, or
Turbo Pascal.


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 3-Mar-90 22:21:19-MST,8509;000000000000
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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat,  3 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   38

Today's Topics:
                           Editor for CP/M
                    information about Sony SMC-70
                              JC Systems
         Looking for a working Micropiolis Disk Controller B
             Non-corrupted MEX Xerox 820-2 overlay wanted
                           null modem help
      Prices for used Kaypros and other CP/M computers. (2 msgs)
                          Televideo 803 help
                      Xerox 820 system for sale!
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Date: 2 Mar 90 07:05:44 GMT
From: hpfcso!hpldola![e-mail]  (Dave Ritchie)
Subject: Editor for CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

>
>able to configure it to make it resemble Emacs.  I was impressed
>enough to want to buy v2.0.  If anyone knows where I can buy a copy of
>v2.0, please let me know.
>

  Well, the authors are tightly associated with Micro Cornucopia magazine
(or at least *were*). You might try calling there to see if they know
an address. They are located in Bend, Oregon.

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Date: 2 Mar 90 05:53:48 GMT
From: att!cbnews![e-mail]  (Franco E. Barber)
Subject: information about Sony SMC-70
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for any information I can find on the
Sony SMC-70 Microcomputer. I understand that this
machine ran CP/M, but I know very little else about
it, and I got the machine with no software.
I don't as a rule follow CP/M developments, so please forgive
me if I have posted this to the wrong newsgroup.

I picked one up mostly as a curiosity, and all I know
about it is what I can see with my own eyes.
It has two  3.5" floppy drives, plus a bunch of
expansion connectors, and a monitor in rom.

If anybody can give me leads to information about this
machine, I would greatly appreciate it.

Franco Barber
att!cblpe!feb

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Date: 3 Mar 90 06:26:41 GMT
From: imagen!atari!portal!portal!cup.portal.com![e-mail]
Subject: JC Systems
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know what happens to JC Systems (Fremont, CA)?  I'm trying
to find some hardware manuals on their MCM-80 (CPU board) and DCM-80 (disk
cntrl board).  Infact, I need to find a boot disk also!!

If anyone has any info about JC Systems, please send me some mail

Thanks,
John


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Date: 27 Feb 90 07:18:40 GMT
From: sgi!omni![e-mail]  (Curt Mayer)
Subject: Looking for a working Micropiolis Disk Controller B
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Waiting for the Sun) writes:
>cannot seem to get the old Micropolis disk controller to come back
>to life.
no, but be aware that vector MZ's came with a micropolis controller, and
they are reasonably common at swap meets.
    curt

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Date: 27 Feb 90 02:35:39 GMT
From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!orca.wv.tek.com!pogo![e-mail]  (Dont Taylor)
Subject: Non-corrupted MEX Xerox 820-2 overlay wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am attempting to provide a person with an overlay for Mex for the Xerox 820-2.
The one in the SIGM library appears to have a crc error.  We have looked through
all the library disks in the local club and can't find another copy.

Will anyone who has access to this spend a minute and see if you have a
copy without the crc error, and if so, email me a copy?

Much thanks, we are looking pretty sorry when the first request from a new
member is this hard to provide.

--
Don Taylor
[e-mail]
...!tektronix!pogo.wv.tek.com!dont

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Date: Fri, 2 Mar 90 8:59:10 EST
From: "'Alex Bodnar Jr - [e-mail]'" <[e-mail]>
Subject: null modem help
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

hello all ....

    i guess its time i stop being a 'lurker' after seeing all
the good info thats come across the net....  and ask the experts
what i am doing wrong! i am trying to get to H89's (z80 cpu) to
talk to each other. i first tried going rs-232 cables to a modem
on each machine then a direct phone connect cable instead of going
into the wall i went to the other modem with xmodem running on
each machine. but i could not get the modems to "See" each other.
next step i tried to use a null modem cable going from one modem
port to the other. no luck there either. i guess this weekend ill
try a regular rs-232 cable from modem port to modem port and see
if that will work. all the time i am using xmodem for software.
any and all assistance will be appreciated.
thank-you in advance
Alex Bodnar
Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD
Information Systems Command
KA3CIM

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Date: 2 Mar 90 04:24:37 GMT
From: imagen!atari!portal!portal!cup.portal.com![e-mail]  (William Thomas Daugustine)
Subject: Prices for used Kaypros and other CP/M computers.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

About a year ago (maybe less, 9 months or so), I got a Kaypro 10 for
$150. Not a bad deal, I consider. The other day, my friend at work
gave me (free!) two Kaypro IIs! All in all CP/M machines are cheap!

(Ive worked the K10 into a trade deal, tho. I also once got an IMS
TurboDOS machine with a 40meg drive for the price of an internal 2400
modem card, about $75!)

Billy D'Augustine
[e-mail]
(I know its difficult, dont ask)

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Date: 27 Feb 90 15:40:58 GMT
From: brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!wuarchive!texbell!ficc![e-mail]  (bob cloud)
Subject: Prices for used Kaypros and other CP/M computers.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
  (Sergio Aponte) writes:
>
>     BTW, I think I need a couple of drives. Will any "single side" flopy
>     drive do? (In other words, are this drives PC and Kaypro compatible or
>     are they a special kind?).
I have an '83 Kaypro 4 (no graphics or internal modem).  It came (new)
with 2 full height DSDD (TANDON100-2's?) drives.  When drive B died
(became un-alignable) it was replaced with a 1/2 height PC type drive.
The same drive on the Kaypro will format a disk to 390K and on a PC it
will get 354K (360K if K=1000).  I have used a cpm based kit on the
KAYPRO (kit has a DYSAN alignment disk) to align a drive which was then
used in a PC with no problem (yet).  Just set the drive select jumper
correctly or your machine and make sure that the last drive on the
cable is the only one with termination resistors installed.

THANKS for your support.  Bob Cloud  [phone]

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Date: 1 Mar 90 20:04:58 GMT
From: uw-entropy!dataio!pilchuck!nwnexus!slovax![e-mail]  (hal)
Subject: Televideo 803 help
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi all.  I've just been given a Televideo 803 (dual 5" floppy, all-in-one box
CP/M system).  No floppy disks, no manuals, no software.  Price was right.
(I've been out of CP/M for more than a dozen years, and am a bit rusty.)

Anyone have any idea where I can come up with the Televideo boot/utility/etc
disks?  I don't even know whether it works!

Thanks much.
Hal Miller
[e-mail]

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Date: 4 Mar 90 04:02:19 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!eve.usc.edu![e-mail]  (Mitch Mlinar)
Subject: Xerox 820 system for sale!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Sasinowski) writes:

#The configuration:
#    Xerox 820
#    2 8" Floppy Drives
#    10Mb Hard Disk
#
#John Sasinowski
#[e-mail]


I cannot seem to post to you, so I will have to put in a public bid
of $150.  Sorry for the excess traffic guys....

-Mitch

P.S.  For those who don't know yet, Kaypro has filed Chapter 11.

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 7-Mar-90 10:23:35-MST,9569;000000000000
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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed,  7 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   39

Today's Topics:
                     BigBoard 1 terminal program.
             CP/M machines hitting rock bottom? (3 msgs)
                      Hard disk backup programs
             IMSAI disk controller info and/or boot disk
                       INFO-CPM Digest V90 #35
              Info on "Olympia People Computer" wanted.
                        Z80 SIO in BISYNC mode
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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 23:31 CST
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: BigBoard 1 terminal program.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for a terminal program for the BigBoard 1 for a friend so that
we can transfer programs.  He has MODEM7, but it does not seem to run
properly on his system.  I have gotten the MODM700.LBR file from SIMTEL20,
but the overlays are not documented in the copy of the index file I have.
Is there a MODEM7 overlay available for the BigBoard, or a terminal program
with XMODEM capabilies for the BigBoard?  Any assistance would be
appreciated.

Lance Tagliapietra  ([e-mail]) or ([e-mail])

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Date: 3 Mar 90 17:42:00 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink![e-mail]  (Curt Sampson)
Subject: CP/M machines hitting rock bottom?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> JSHIN writes:
> I that case, could someone point me to a daisy-wheel printer for
> under $100?  I need one for my Thesis; or I'll have to pay for the
> laserprinting...   :-(

I've been looking for a (cheap) daisywheel printer for a while now, too.  No
luck, unfortunatly.  I guess if it's IBM compatable, it's still worth money.
However, the HP DeskJet has to hit $300 sooner or later, and then...

BTW, I'm starting to have serious regrets about my original posting.   It
appears that the "ridiculous" price I paid for my machine was quite high,
actually.  I'm just burning with jelousy...
        -CJS    ( [e-mail] )
[Say, anyone got an S100 portable they'd like to pay me to take...]

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Date: 5 Mar 90 16:32:13 GMT
From: sumax!polari![e-mail]  (Don Glover)
Subject: CP/M machines hitting rock bottom?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have been trying to reply on this subject but all
my mail bounces, so a quick injection here I have
an alphcom daisy wheel printer with a pc centronics
interface that I have been trying to unload for
$75 if you are interested call me at 206/286-8824.

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Date: 6 Mar 90 00:02:51 GMT
From: ubc-cs!alberta!atha![e-mail]  (Richard Loken)
Subject: CP/M machines hitting rock bottom?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

From article <[e-mail]>, by [e-mail] ("No, me?"):
>
> Hmmmm.....
>
> I that case, could someone point me to a daisy-wheel printer for
> under $100?  I need one for my Thesis; or I'll have to pay for the
> laserprinting...   :-(
>
>         -John

Well how about this.  I got two working Diablo 1650's, the service manuals,
alignment tools, spare parts for free.

Uh, but they are not for sale.

IMHO nobody anywhere makes a better daisy wheel printer than Diablo.  Ribbons
are fairly reasonable and readily available.  What more can you ask for.

     *********        73
    **********        Richard Loken VE6BSV
   .      ****
  ..      ****        Athabasca University
 ....     ****        Athabasca, Alberta Canada
..........****        [e-mail]    {alberta|decwrl}!atha!tech

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Date: 6 Mar 90 13:21:34 GMT
From: ea.ecn.purdue.edu![e-mail]  (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: Hard disk backup programs
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Now that I have added a 30 meg hard drive to my Kaypro 2X (does that
make it a Kaypro 30?), I am wondering what do other people use to
back up their hard drives.  I have looked around on Simtel20, but I
haven't found anything that I am happy with.

I am looking for the following:

    1. Ability to save and restore the date-stamping info that ZSDOS
       uses.
    2. Ability to backup files based on date-stamps.
    3. Ability to backup files that are larger than a floppy disk.

Something that worked kind of cpio-like should be possible.  It could
write an archive that spans many disks; each disk would contain a
single file, with a name something like:

    03-06-90.nnn

where the nnn is the disk number so that the restore program could
tell if you had put in the right disk or not.  Each file stored inside
of the archive would start with a 128 byte header that would contain
all known info about the file, e.g.:

    1. File name, with appropriate bits for public, R/O, etc. set.
    2. File size.
    3. Drive and user area.
    4. File creation, modification, and access times.
    5. An optional CRC to check file integrity during a restore.

Since it would be using the DOS to write the files, it should be
portable between computers, assuming that they can read the same disk
format.

It seems that I have rambled on a bit.  Well, before I try to write
something like this myself, is there some program out there that I
have missed?
--
                Jeff Wieland
            [e-mail]

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Date: 7 Mar 90 02:42:03 GMT
From: crdgw1!beowulf![e-mail]  (Waiting for the Sun)
Subject: IMSAI disk controller info and/or boot disk
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    I have an old IMSAI PDS 1.1 disk controller. Possibly aka
    DIO A. I'm looking for whatever information I can find on
    said critter. A boot disk would be really spectacular, but I'm
    not holding my breath.

    I'm also looking for another Micropolis disk controller to replace the
    one I blew up a while back....Anyone got one they'd be willing to
    part with?

    While I'm asking how 'bout a z80 S100 CPU card?

Thanks,
    bob

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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 90 16:32 EST
From: "Bill Weinel"                               <[e-mail]>
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #35

> I own a Kaypro IV '84 and I am wondering if Micro Cornicoupia is
> still in business.  If so, are they still catering to CP/M Kaypros?

Yes, Micro-C is still in business. However, these days most of their
articals cater to the PC crowd. They did have a CP/M column on a
semi-regular basis, but I haven't seen one in a while. I heard a rumor
that Micro-C was to be sold to another publishing group. However, I have
seen no editorial evidence from Dave Thomson to support it. Micro-C is
still a good source for CP/M related ads, as most of the CP/M oriented
advertisers are still there. Consequently, it may be worth subscribing
for that alone.
                                                TWYL  Bill

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Date: 5 Mar 90 20:57:00 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sunybcs![e-mail]  (Sy Ali)
Subject: Info on "Olympia People Computer" wanted.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi folks,

    I'm about to aquire the abovenamed beastie, and don't have a clue
about it (other than its isn't worth much). I'd appreciate any information
peoples out there can provide me with about this sucker. Apparently it runs
CP/M-86 & MSDOS (but its not IBM compatible).

Cheers, Sy.
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Syed Ali, Dept. of CS, 226 Bell Hall, SUNY@Buffalo, NY 14260.

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 90 20:28 CST
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: Z80 SIO in BISYNC mode
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Has anyone on the list worked with the Z80 SIO in its BISYNC mode? I am
going to be using it as my part in a token ring network for a computer
communications networks class I am taking this semester.  I have so far
gotten two Z80 computers to communicate over a BISYNC link, but only after
running both systems off the same clock (this in effect, gives the same
clock to both transmit and receive). The Z80 SIO manual does not mention
this, and I was rather suprised to find it so clock sensitive.  Our
textbooks mention little about BISYNC. I would appreciate anyone to share
their experiencees in working the SIO in BISYNC mode.

Thanx in advance,

Lance Tagliapietra ([e-mail])

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri,  9 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   40

Today's Topics:
                     Any Morrow user's out there?
                           Bondwell Model 2
                  CP/M machines hitting rock bottom?
                          Kaypro HardDrives
                               P&T CP/M
                                Stuph
                   Telecomm Program for BigBoard I
               Wanted: cheap laptop (NEC Starlet 4500)
                          Wanted : dBASE II
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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 90 17:41:00 EST
From: Kevin J. Cummings <[e-mail]>
Subject: Any Morrow user's out there?

Written 10:28 am  Feb 21, 1990 by [e-mail] in S55:comp.os.cpm:
>In article <[e-mail]> svh@shell () writes:
>>I've just bought a Morrow S-100 Z80 computer with a 16M hard drive
>>and 5.25" floppy. This beast has a "Wunderbuss" that has a real
>>time clock, and several serial channels out.
>
>you have a Decision 1. MD-{1,2,3,11,34, etc) are single board
>computers. i have 2 of these suckers and they have a very nice
>floppy controller and a fairly surreal cpu card (z80 with mmu).

My understanding of the Decision 1, was that it was NOT a single board
computer, rather an MPU-Z card (with ROM), a floppy disk controller (either
a Disk-Jockey 8", or a DJ/DMA 5/8"), and possibly a hard disk controller
(an HDC-A or an HDC/DMA).  They also had an IO card (either a Wunderbuss
or a Multi-IO card).

>>Since I can read hard/soft sector disks, I think there should be
>>or must have been a utility to read NorthStar disks on this machine.
>
>if you have the morrow cp/m for this sucker, you should be able to
>read northstar hard sector 5.25 inch disks directly. the most
>current cbios i have seen is version 3.1E.

The CBIOS that came with my DJ/DMA controller was E3.  It would only
use soft-sectored 8" and hard sectored 5" (NorthStar Formats).

I asked for (and received) an upgrade to E4 (with a new prom and a new
PLA device for the DJ/DMA) that allowed me to use MD2 and MD3 disks
as well (soft sectored).  I have modified my CBIOS to recognize some
other soft-sectored formats as well:  Heath-Zenith, OSBORNE-1, and IBM-PC
CPM-86.  (There is a problem with the OSBORNE code as the DJ/DMA seems
to be able to read, but not write in the SD mode, even though DJFORMAT
claims to be able to format them....)

I also received an IBIOS with the HDC/DMA I purchased which seemed to
be a spin-off of E3, but would allow for dynamically installing new
devices into the BIOS (I'm not sure how, this software came on an 8"
disk, and I only have 5" drives).

>>I also have a 256K RAM card that was intended for use with
>>Micronix - a Z80 UNIX. I'd like to check out CP/M 3.0. Has
>>anyone ported to this machine? Alternatively, does anyone have
>>a RAMDISK driver for the expansion memory?
>
>ron jacobs, an ex-morrow employee will gladly sell you for a
>few bucks, a ramdisk driver. his last phone number was:
>[phone]  (berkeley, california).

I wrote a RAMDISK driver for the Compupro CPU-Z board using its
bank switching technique.  It was quite easy to integrate it into
the Morrow BIOS (thanks to their high level/low level device
implementations, I was able to bury all of the low level code in ROM on the
CPU card!).

>>Finally, has anyone upped the hard drive to a workable size?
>
>it should be possible, given cbios and mwformat source.
>i have both, if you tell me where to send it. (or, i could e-mail
>it to you) (legal eagles: is this legit? morrow is no more)
>

I had no trouble upgrading the MW portion of the CBIOS to support the
Shugart 5MB drives, and then a MINI-SCRIBE 40MB drive I was using.
The only complaint I had was that the CBIOS as shipped would only support
ONE set of drive parameters (to minimize re-initializing the HDC/DMA).
That meant you couldn't mix different sized hard disk drives, you could
use up to 4 of the same sized drive though.

>>Steven V. Hovater      Shell Development Company     [phone] (work)
>>[e-mail]
>> or [e-mail]
>
>    curt mayer, kernel hacker
>    home: 415-923-9104    work: 415-966-1024 x 216
>---------------------------------------------------------------------

One final note, the Morrow CBIOS assumes you have access to MAC or RMAC
to assemble it!  I spent a lot of time removing the macros so I could
assemble it with ASM.  Then I "inherited" a copy of RMAC with an OSBORNE
from a relative.  Sigh!  It was also relatively easy installing ZCPR-3.0
support into the BIOS, tho you start to run out of room in the BOOT sector
of the 5" disks!  You have more leaway if you boot from 8" (and lots of
extra room if you boot directly from your Hard disk if you can!)

============================================================================
Kevin J. Cummings                       Prime Computer Inc.
20 Briarwood Road                       500 Old Connecticut Path
Framingham, Mass.                       Framingham, Mass.

InterNet:  [e-mail]
CSNet:     [e-mail]
UUCP:      {uunet, csnet-relay}!S55.Prime.COM!CUMMINGS

Std. Disclaimer: "Mr. McKittrick, after careful consideration, I've come
                  to the conclusion that your new defense system SUCKS..."
============================================================================

Sorry this didn't get out sooner, our news feed site changed addresses and
didn't tell us, SIGH!


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Date: 09 Mar 90 15:10:40+0100
From: "Mitchell F. Wyle" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bondwell Model 2
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

1. Does anyone know of anyone who owns a Bondwell Model 2 laptop?

   I know Dag Henrik Braatane is out there; does anyone know of anyone
   else?

There were some things on SIMTEL20, but no e-mail references.  I want to
run qterm or mex with the internal 1200 baud modem, and swap war stories
with other owners.


2. What's the latest word on vi clones for cp/m?  Anyone running the
   "S" editor?


-Mitchell F. Wyle
Institut fuer Informationssysteme         [e-mail]
ETH Zentrum / 8092 Zurich, Switzerland    [phone]

[ Mr. Peterson:  Please post this note to usenet also; news
  is not flowing out two sites up.   Thanks.  ]

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Date: 7 Mar 90 07:03:00 GMT
From: dsl.pitt.edu!pitt!darth!insight![e-mail]  (Brian Hughes)
Subject: CP/M machines hitting rock bottom?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

 > > JSHIN writes:
 > > I that case, could someone point me to a daisy-wheel
 > printer for
 > > under $100?  I need one for my Thesis; or I'll have
 > to pay for the
 > > laserprinting...   :-(

  Computer Shopper shows Tredex unloading NEW Diablo 635's (55 Characters/ second) for $199.00.  They're marked Xerox as I think they originally were bundled with Xerox 820-II's.

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Date: 9 Mar 90 15:01:00 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!tmsoft!masnet!canremote![e-mail]  (MARK HORNBLOWER)
Subject: Kaypro HardDrives
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

TO: [e-mail]

You successfully jammed a hard drive in a Kaypro 2?  How long did it
take you?  Did you just go trial and error until it flew, or did you
get a hold of some material on the subject?

I ask because I've been messing with it for a while now, with minimum
results ... the pair of 2's I own came with nothing more than the
really lame "Meet Your Kaypro" docs that they gave to business jerks
so they'd know which way was up for the floppy ... no schematics or
tech material in sight ... I'd just buy a 10, but people want the moon
for them around here ... $600.00 minimum ...

Any info that you could point me to would be vastly appreciated ...

Mark Hornblower - R.A.H.F.B.P.
---
 ~ DeLuxe 1.11a20 #2073  >>Place pithy saying and/or witty message here<<

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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 90 18:47:51 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Margaret H. Knox)
Subject: P&T CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

To Steven Hovater who was looking for P&T CP/M --- [Somehow my mail all
got delayed, then arrived in one BIG lump!]  If someone hasn't already
pointed you in that direction, P&T was bought by TriSoft.  Give them
a call at 1-800-531-5170 or [phone].  They can help you.


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Date: 9 Mar 90 15:56:00 GMT
From: mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!tmsoft!masnet!canremote![e-mail]  (MARK HORNBLOWER)
Subject: Stuph
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Questions:

Does anyone know of a software vendor that markets a macro assembler
that is compatable with MAC?

Does anyone know if Borland still offers Turbo Pascal for CP/M
machines?  I think that the last revision for the Z80 was version
3.3, but I could be wrong ...

I have been trying to buy both MAC and TP used around here, with no
success at all ... time to look further afield ...

Mark Hornblower - R.A.H.F.B.P.
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 ~ DeLuxe 1.11a20 #2073  >>Place pithy saying and/or witty message here<<

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 90 14:20:16 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Telecomm Program for BigBoard I

Lance Taliapietra asked about a telecomm program for a BigBoard I.  The BBI
is so similar to the early (if not all) Kaypros that one should be able to
use a Kaypro overlay for MDM740, IMP, or MEX.  If that solution does not
work, get back to me.  I sold my BBI, but I still have contact with the new
owner and could get him to make a disk with working versions of these
programs.

-- Jay Sage


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Date: 9 Mar 90 21:24:27 GMT
From: amelia![e-mail]  (Jonathan M. Hahn)
Subject: Wanted: cheap laptop (NEC Starlet 4500)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm looking for an inexpensive laptop to use as a portable terminal.
I need a full-size screen (at least 80x24), full-size keyboard and
telcom program; the CPU & OS are of little importance.

I saw an ad for a NEC Starlet 4500 a while ago and it's just what I'm
looking for, but I missed it.  Are there any others out there for sale?
Anything simlar?  Please respond by mail.

thanks in advance,

Jonathan Hahn
[e-mail]
...!ames!amelia!hahn

wk: [phone]
hm: [phone]

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 90 16:05:16 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Wanted : dBASE II

Who can help me get a copy of CPM-80 dBASE II? [my '83 LOBO MAX80 still runs]

Note the two zeroes in my address [e-mail]

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 10 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   41

Today's Topics:
                    Bounced mail re Kaypro manuals
                    Need help with Kaypro Model 10
                           Null Modem Help
                         Osborne 1 ext video
                            Video Editor?
                   Z80A Assembler algorithm needed!
                   Z80 Compilers & Cross Compilers
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Date: 10 Mar 90 22:31:41 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Mike Morris)
Subject: Bounced mail re Kaypro manuals
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Sorry to bother the net, but after the mail bounced, I decided that
the info might help several people....
Pat: I've included some of the header in case it gives you some info
on why it bounced...  maybe it's on my end?  whatever...

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 [e-mail]... Host unknown

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Need help with Kaypro Model 10

In article <[e-mail]> you write:
>Subject: Need help with Kaypro Model 10
>I just received a Kaypro Model 10 in good working condition but without any
>manuals.  This is my son's first computer & he's really excited about it.
>If someone has spare manuals or some I could photocopy I would really
>appreciate it.  I called Kaypro, but they don't carry those manuals anymore
>nor are they interested in helping me track any down...

Try:

ERAC Co.
8920 Clairemont Mesa Bl. Suite 117
San Diego, Ca. 92111    619-569-1864

They've always had the Kaypro parts/info I've needed.

>Thanks in advance...

No Prob - do someone else a favor sometime...

Mike Morris                      Internet:  [e-mail]
                                 Misslenet: 34.12 N, 118.02 W
#Include quote.cute.standard     Bellnet:   818-447-7052
#Include disclaimer.standard     Radionet:  WA6ILQ

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Date: 10 Mar 90 04:36:07 GMT
From: pasteur!helios.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!mailrus!sharkey!rjf001!wraith![e-mail]  (Raymond Browder)
Subject: Need help with Kaypro Model 10
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

 (I am posting this for a friend.)

Subject: Need help with Kaypro Model 10

I just received a Kaypro Model 10 in good working condition but without any
manuals.  This is my son's first computer & he's really excited about it.
If someone has spare manuals or some I could photocopy I would really
appreciate it.  I called Kaypro, but they don't carry those manuals anymore
nor are they interested in helping me track any down...
Thanks in advance...
Please respond to: [e-mail]
voice: [phone]
u.s. snail: Interpose
            706 Pauline Blvd
            Ann Arbor, MI 48103

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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 90 22:41:44 EST
From: Alex Bodnar (STEAP-IMD 5545) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Null Modem Help
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

a big THANK-YOU for all the people who responded to my plea for assistance!

after getting one of those little rs232 testers from trash-shack i
discovered that the magnolia cpm in this H89 switched the physical
ports with the port numbers in the software hense.....once i used a
male 2 female converter and plugged in to the other port everything
is running great so far.

THANKX AGAIN


========================================================================
Alex M. Bodnar Jr.   Amateur Radio - KA3CIM               PPSEL
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Information Systems Command
Systems Engineering Management Division
Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD
DSN 298-5545 Comm 1-301-278-5545
========================================================================

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Date: 10 Mar 90 10:13:41 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Ken Tindle)
Subject: Osborne 1 ext video
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have inherited an Osborne 1- however...

I do not have anything to put on the "ext video" card edge, which very
much makes it worthless.

What I would like would be an adapter that actually sent out composite
video, I've already got a suitable 12" monitor.  But beggars cannot be
chosers, so if I can just fire up the internal 5 incher, so be it...

It's cute that Osborne does not provide a pinout, or at least they could
have designed the silly thing so the internal was active w/o a plug!  Not
very nice.

I realize one cannot send schematics by ascii mail- I'll pay for this info
by regular mail if someone has a schematic and is in a giving mood.  I
assume the internal monitor can be activated with some simple jumpers,
tho God only knows which pins to jumper!

--------------------------\ /-----------------------------------------------
INTERNET:[e-mail] | "Could you please continue the petty bickering?
BITNET: [e-mail] |  I find it most intriguing."   ---    Data,
Ken Tindle - Lexington, KY |  Star Trek, The Next Generation, "Haven"
--------------------------/ \-----------------------------------------------

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Date: 10 Mar 90 06:09:00 GMT
From: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Video Editor?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm looking for a simple and straight forward editor (preferably video
oriented).  I am going to get VDO25B.LBR from Simtel20.  Does anyone
have any opinions, gripes, raves, etc. about it?  Also, can anyone
suggest a better video editor?
Joe Gering
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
[e-mail]

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Date: 9 Mar 90 13:23:50 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc![e-mail]  (C P Brown)
Subject: Z80A Assembler algorithm needed!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Apologies that this isn't directly CP/M based but its the closest I could get.

I'm writing a Z80 cross assembler/disassembler and emulator on a 68000-based
machine, and I've run into a spot of bother. The Z80 is such a strange beast
that I can't work out a decent assembler algorithm, and although I've done a
disassembler, I'm not whether its optimal or not.

Please can anyone suggest a reference for good Z80 assembler/disassembler
algorithms, or even better, source? Ideally it would cover the undocumented
instructions too. Because I'm going to include an emulator I'd like a pretty
efficient version of the disassembler (or instruction decoder).

Advice for a good Z80 reference would be appreciated, as I'm going to have to
learn the exact functionality of every Z80 instruction - I'm familiar with
most, but some (eg IM 0/1/2) I'm a little unsure of.

Please e-mail as I don't (can't) subscribe to this newsgroup.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Phil Brown

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Date: 10 Mar 90 10:04:26 GMT
From: imagen!atari!portal!portal!cup.portal.com![e-mail]  (Peter Peter Weldon)
Subject: Z80 Compilers & Cross Compilers
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for Z80 compiler or cross-compilers that can produce
stand alone code for an embedded real-time enviroment.
Pascal, C, Forth or Modula 2 compilers are what I am looking for.
Cross compilers hosted on a PC are also fine. Does anyone have any
suggestion. If you mail I will summarize on the net.

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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 12 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   42

Today's Topics:
                  AMPRO Little Board Parallel cable
                     BigBoard 1 terminal program.
                       INFO-CPM Digest V90 #41
                          Kaypro HardDrives
                          vi clone for CP/M
                            Video Editor?
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Date: 10 Mar 90 19:28:40 GMT
From: pacbell!sactoh0![e-mail]  (Ian R. Justman)
Subject: AMPRO Little Board Parallel cable
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

What's the best way of wiring a parallel cable for an Ampro Little
Board CP/M computer sans SCSI?  Many thanks in advance.  BTW, I
want to interface it with a centronics printer.
--
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Date: 10 Mar 90 13:08:31 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!unido!balu![e-mail]  (A.F.Zinser)
Subject: BigBoard 1 terminal program.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

hi...
Sorry, I do not own a terminal program, but I look for other
BigBoard 2 users, if there are any.. :-) Please contact me at
[e-mail].

Thanks, Axel
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 90 01:11:28 EST
From: Bill Lowe <[e-mail]>
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #41

I have a freind with an early Osborne 1. He is having trouble. It won't
boot. He tells me the SOP is hit the return key and the system jumps.
He has cleaned the keybord as well as possible and suspects the keybord
or cable may have gone bad. Any advice? Anyone have a keybord or cable?

Thanks for the attention.
Bill Lowe [e-mail]

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Date: 11 Mar 90 14:17:48 GMT
From: texbell!nuchat!sugar!ficc![e-mail]  (bob cloud)
Subject: Kaypro HardDrives
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (MARK HORNBLOWER) writes:
>
> Any info that you could point me to would be vastly appreciated ...
>
> Mark Hornblower - R.A.H.F.B.P.
Try Micro Cornucopia:

KAYPRO II & KAYPRO 4 THEORY OF OPERATION (C) 1983
By Dana Cotant -- Micro Cornucopia
                  P.O. Box 223 -- Bend, OR 97709
Also:
KAYPRO 4 & KAYPRO II SCHEMATIC  (C) 1983  Micro Cornucopia
Drawn By Frank Guthrie  5/23/83

And we DO thank you for your support!  Bob Cloud [phone]

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Date: 10 Mar 90 00:14:20 GMT
From: van-bc!rsoft!mindlink![e-mail]  (Curt Sampson)
Subject: vi clone for CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> wyle writes:
> 2. What's the latest word on vi clones for cp/m?  Anyone running the
>    "S" editor?

Hey!  I'm looking for one of those too.  If any one has any info on vi-like
editors for CP/M, I (and at least two other people reading this group) would
appreciate hearing about it.  What is this "S" editor?

I've been thinking about just sitting down and writing a vi clone when I have
some spare time.  It's just the thought of waiting until 1992 that kills me...
:-)  Also, I'm (eek!) starting to get used to WordStar...
        -cjs    ( [e-mail] )

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Date: 11 Mar 90 07:11:00 GMT
From: pacbell!sactoh0![e-mail]  (Ian R. Justman)
Subject: Video Editor?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>
>
>
> I'm looking for a simple and straight forward editor (preferably video
> oriented).  I am going to get VDO25B.LBR from Simtel20.

I don't know what kind of computer you're planning to run it on
because I hear that VDO is really specialized for the computer you
want to run it on.  It uses memory-mapped video displays like that
on the Osborne, and I think, the Kaypro.  In other words, you can't
use it on a system designed to run with a dumb terminal like my
Dynabyte DB8/1 running off a CPU port, or my Ampro Little Board.
Which brings me to...

> Does anyone
> have any opinions, gripes, raves, etc. about it?  Also, can anyone
> suggest a better video editor?

I stongly suggest you look for a package called ZDE13.  It's
designed after VDE, but it works on Z-System (ZCPR3.x), but
optionally, you can use it (As the README file says) with vanilla
CP/M.  I've been using it a lot and it's a GREAT little editor.
It's not WordStar, but for small files small enough to fit in
memory (nothing over say, 30-35k), it's perfect.
--
Home:   Ian Justman   |UUCP: ...!uunet!mmsac or        |"One of the few
6612 Whitsett Drive   | ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!csusac or   |die-hard CP/M
North Highlands, CA   | ...{ames, att, sun}!pacbell    |addicts left on this
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 90 14:15:36 MST
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 12 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   43

Today's Topics:
              AMPRO Little Board Parallel cable (2 msgs)
                        NorthStar info needed.
                   Osborne 1 80 column upgrade kits
                 small C library <cpm.misc>smc203.lbr
                            Stuph (2 msgs)
                       TRS-80 Model II for sale
                      Z80 Compilers & Cross Com
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Date: 12 Mar 90 06:40:37 GMT
From: amdahl!pacbell!sactoh0![e-mail]  (Ian R. Justman)
Subject: AMPRO Little Board Parallel cable
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, I wrote:
> What's the best way of wiring a parallel cable for an Ampro Little
> Board CP/M computer sans SCSI?

The summary line says all.  But thanks to anyone who sends me help
anyway.  But then again, who knows?  Maybe I can build a better cable
thanks to any of you folks out there.

Anyway, does anyone know how to modify the source to the Ampro's
BIOS (I have version 1.4) to accomodate for an IOP (for which I
have source, so that's not a problem)?
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6612 Whitsett Drive   | ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!csusac or   |die-hard CP/M
North Highlands, CA   | ...{ames, att, sun}!pacbell    |addicts left on this
[phone]   95660|     !sactoh0!ijsys!ianj        |planet"

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Date: 12 Mar 90 15:53:06 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!sdsu!crash![e-mail]  (Marc Wilson)
Subject: AMPRO Little Board Parallel cable
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ian R. Justman) writes:
>What's the best way of wiring a parallel cable for an Ampro Little
>Board CP/M computer sans SCSI?  Many thanks in advance.  BTW, I
>want to interface it with a centronics printer.

     This one's easy.  Just build a cable with an IDC header on one end to
fit the connector on the LittleBoard.  On the other end, place a female
DB-25.  Install IDC connector on board, and connect IBM parallel cable to
other end.  Voila!  Centronics!
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Marc Wilson
     ARPA: ...!crash![e-mail]
           ...!crash!pnet01!pro-sol![e-mail]
     UUCP: [ cbosgd | hp-sdd!hplabs | sdcsvax | nosc ]!crash!mwilson
     INET: [e-mail]
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Date: 11 Mar 90 15:46:00 GMT
From: van-bc!rsoft!mindlink![e-mail]  (Bruce Peltzer)
Subject: NorthStar info needed.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've got a pair of NorthStar Advantages which I would like to use to control a
number of digital hardware projects I am working on for college. To do this, I
need a bit of hardware information. Does anyone know where I could get
schematic diagrams, BIOS ROM listings and/or pinouts for the expansion bus?
Does anyone have this information collecting dust in the closet?

Another thing I might be interested in are upgrades to this beast. I know that
North Star offered a hard drive for it. Does anyone have an old hard drive
controller for an Advantage? It doesn't have to work, but, since I am a poor,
starving student (heavy emphasis on poor), it should be reasonably inexpensive.

Thanks muchly!


                 -bp-.

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 90 00:43 CST
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: Osborne 1 80 column upgrade kits
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello all,

Does anyone know where I can find an upgrade kit for the osborne that
will give it 80 column video? I read about one this weekend when I
downloaded the osborne overlay for the IMP communications program which
also allowed higher baud rates through the serial port. Does anyone
know abn
know about these, or have schematics from which I could create my own?

Lance Tagliapietra ([e-mail]) or ([e-mail])

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 90 00:37 CST
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: small C library <cpm.misc>smc203.lbr
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello all,

I just pulled the small C compiler from SIMTEL20 and have a few problems.

First, many of the entries in the library extract with CRC errors. These
are the source files for the C comiler (text files) and the garbage at the
end of each file is easily edited out.

Second, I can't seem to get the version for the ASM (LASM) assembler to
send its output to an output file, all the assembler code generated by
the comiler goes to the screen.

Thoughts?

Lance Tagliapietra ([e-mail]) or ([e-mail])

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Date: 11 Mar 90 17:14:00 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!tmsoft!masnet!canremote![e-mail]  (LARRY MOORE)
Subject: Stuph
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

>
>Date: 03-09-90 (10:56)        U-CPM Number: 1780 (Echo)
>  To: ALL AND SUNDRY
>From: MARK HORNBLOWER                 Read: NO
>Subj: Stuph
>
>Questions:
>
>Does anyone know if Borland still offers Turbo Pascal for CP/M
>machines?  I think that the last revision for the Z80 was version
>3.3, but I could be wrong ...
>
Borland's Turbo Pascal V3.0 for CP/M is still for sale but not
directly from Borland International. I'll look up the name of who has
the agency. Back shortly, larry
---
 * Via ProDoor 3.1R

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Date: 12 Mar 90 15:49:15 GMT
From: crash![e-mail]  (Marc Wilson)
Subject: Stuph
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MARK HORNBLOWER) writes:
>Questions:
>
>Does anyone know of a software vendor that markets a macro assembler
>that is compatable with MAC?

     MAC follows the standard macro implementation... you could always use
the M80/L80 combination.  Or use RMAC/LINK instead.

     Alpha Systems sells Turbo Pascal v3.01a.  I don't have contact info.
to hand right now... sorry.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Marc Wilson
     ARPA: ...!crash![e-mail]
           ...!crash!pnet01!pro-sol![e-mail]
     UUCP: [ cbosgd | hp-sdd!hplabs | sdcsvax | nosc ]!crash!mwilson
     INET: [e-mail]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 90 9:32:48 EST
From: Alex Bodnar (STEAP-IMD 5545) <[e-mail]>
Subject: TRS-80 Model II for sale
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

a friend of mine has a TRS-80 model II for sale. although this machine
does not have cpm i believe there is an upgrade for it. since we cannot
put prices on the net ill put his name and number below the list of
equipment/software.

                          TRS-80 MODEL II - BUSINESS COMPUTER
Less than 100 hours of usage.
1. Model II 64k micro                  11. Owners manual
2. printer cable                       12. Head cleaning kit
3. Line printer IV                     13. over 50 new 8" diskettes
4. 2 eight inch drives(expandable to 4)14. three diskette holders
5. General Ledger package              15. 25 used 8" diskettes
6. Inventory Control System            16. Mailing List pgm
7. Model II Scripsit 2.0               17. TRS-80 Graphics installed
8. Versafile                           18. Level I + II Basic books
9. Videotex - Plus (stock quotes)      19. Intro + self teaching guide
10. Scripsit Word Processing           20. Plastic machine covers

call Mr Charles Tarquini at comm 301-278-5757 or DSN (autovon) 298-5757




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Date: 11 Mar 90 17:19:00 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!tmsoft!masnet!canremote![e-mail]  (LARRY MOORE)
Subject: Z80 Compilers & Cross Com
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

>From: [e-mail] (Peter Peter Weldon)
>Subj: Z80 Compilers & Cross Compilers
>Orga: The Portal System (TM)
>
>I am looking for Z80 compiler or cross-compilers that can produce
>stand alone code for an embedded real-time enviroment.
>Pascal, C, Forth or Modula 2 compilers are what I am looking for.
>Cross compilers hosted on a PC are also fine. Does anyone have any
>suggestion. If you mail I will summarize on the net.

May I suggest BD Software's C compiler package (version 1.60) or
Manx Axtec C ... either can produce stand-alone ROMable code.
BDS C would be the less expensive of the two.
---
 * Via ProDoor 3.1R

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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 15 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   44

Today's Topics:
           Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips (3 msgs)
                 Osborne 1 Video/Schematics Available
                    Osborne 1 video saga continues
                                 test
                   Z80 Compilers & Cross Compilers
                         ZMP overlay for C128
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 90 15:43 HST
From: Ralph Becker-Szendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips

Hi

The subject line says it all: I need some information (pin assignment, register
locations, interfacing) for the MSM 5832 and RTC 58321 clock chips (in view of
putting one of them onto my homebrew Z80 system).

I have one confusing piece of information: I read somewhere that the 58321 is
the pin-compatible successor to the 5832, just with the 32768Hz quartz
built-in. But the 5832 is a 18-pin chip, the 58321 is a 16-pin chip. What is
going on ?

Most important question: Which distributor carries the 5832 (Jameco sells
58321s).

Ralph Becker-Szendy                            [e-mail]
University of Hawaii / High Energy Physics Group        [e-mail]
Watanabe Hall #203, 2505 Correa Road, Honolulu, HI 96822      [phone]

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Date: 13 Mar 90 17:35:09 GMT
From: ogicse!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!gvgpsa!gold![e-mail]  (Gregory Ebert)
Subject: Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ralph Becker-Szendy) writes:
>Hi
>
>The subject line says it all: I need some information (pin assignment, register
>locations, interfacing) for the MSM 5832 and RTC 58321 clock chips (in view of
>putting one of them onto my homebrew Z80 system).
>
OKI semiconductor makes them [phone].

The 5832 has +/- 30 sec adjust, separate addr/data lines, has a funny
VCC/GND pin location, and lives in 18 pins.

    1=VDD    18=hold
    2=WRITE    17=XT*
    3=READ    16=XT
    4=A0    15=+/-30SEC ADJ.
    5=A1    14=TEST
    6=A2    13=GND
    7=A3    12=D3
    8=CS    11=D2
    9=D0    10=D1

The 58321 looks like :

    1=CS2    16=VDD
    2=WR    15=XT
    3=RD    14=XT*
    4=D0    13=CS1
    5=D1    12=TEST
    6=D2    11=STOP
    7=D3    10=BUSY*
    8=GND     9=ADDR WRITE

Both chips require an external crystal, but have the oscillator guts
onchip. Send me a SASE and I'll give you copies of the data sheet.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Ebert                       ..uunet!tektronix!gvgpsa!gold!grege
Grass Valley Group
400 Providence Mine Rd           [e-mail]
Nevada City, CA 95959
[phone]

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Date: 14 Mar 90 16:06:09 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!deimos!iowasp![e-mail]
Subject: Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gregory Ebert) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ralph Becker-Szendy) writes:
>>Hi
>>
>>The subject line says it all: I need some information (pin assignment, register
>>locations, interfacing) for the MSM 5832 and RTC 58321 clock chips (in view of
>>putting one of them onto my homebrew Z80 system).
>>
 If you are building your own hardware, the 5832 has very slow access
time.  A 4 Mhz Z80 will probably not be relaible when reading/writing the
5832.  A slower processor (i.e. 2.5 Mhz) may work...
  National makes a pair of chips that are faster and simpler to use,
the 8570 and 8571...

Bill Robison
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 90 20:48 CST
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: Osborne 1 Video/Schematics Available
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello all,

To all those with an Osborne 1, schematics are available for this beast in the
form of Sams ComputerFacts. I ordered my set from the local Radio Shack,
otherwise their address and phone number are:

Howard W. Sams & Co., Inc.
4300 West 62nd Street
Post Office Box 7092
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206
U.S.A

1-800-428-SAMS
         (7267)

The osborne schematics are in folder number CSCS1.

In response to the person who asked, the video edge connector is wired such
that each pad on the lower part of the board gets connected to the pad
directly above it on the top of the board.

I hope this helpful.

Lance Tagliapietra ([e-mail]) or ([e-mail])

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Date: 13 Mar 90 02:08:22 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Ken Tindle)
Subject: Osborne 1 video saga continues
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello again, I'm the one who posted recently in need of a way to activate
the video circuits of an Osborne 1.  I got mail from these kind folk...

Steven Russell <[e-mail]>
David Goodenough <[e-mail]>
Les Flodrowski <[e-mail]>
Al Jones <[e-mail]>
Bob Mesenbrink <[e-mail]>

... and would like to thank them.

Taking their advice, I called Worswick Industries at...

    Worswick Industries        [phone]
    4898 Ronson Ct. Suite H         Hours: M-F 9-6 PST
    San Diego, CA 92111

... and found they still sell card-edge to composite video adapters for
$19.00.  Sorry, Les, no "official" shunt; but this dude activates the
internal monitor as well, so will get you going regardless.

I received today an adapter which works, er, sort of.  The picture lacks
contrast and is not very stable, however.  So I've ripped it apart, to have
a look at its guts.

True to form, and as expected after reading my e-mail, the thing connects
all the top pins on one side to the bottom corresponding pins on the same
side, to turn on the internal monitor.  It's interesting to note the card
edge fingers are mirrored, so one can put the connector on either way, and
it'll work.  What consideration on Osborne's part!  Too bad they didn't
just put feedthroughs on the *&#@$% motherboard to begin with!

The thing turned out to be eating five signals- +5V,GND,Hsync,Vsync,VIDEO.
The H and V sync pulses are generated by an 'LS221 dual one-shot, whose
periods are not adjustable.  Their outputs are connected by divider to the
video signal, and buffered by a transistor, feeding an internal 75 ohm load.

The instability is (apparently) being caused by incorrect sync timing, and
the lack of contrast because the monitor has a 75 ohm load too, which loads
the transistor too heavy and makes the overall signal too small (this isn't
helping the stability either, if the monitor can't *find* the syncs, they
may as well not be there)!  So I'm gonna try ripping out a resistor and
adding a pot, to replace the fixed resistor controlling timing.

If I ultimately can't figure this out, I'll "cheat" and buy a solution!

It looks very doable (at first flush) to get an IBM mono monitor signal
from the card edge; then you could use the flotilla of these monitors
one can often find laying around.  Nobody wants to play with composite
much anymore.  :-(

I also got info for a user's group I'll look into:

              415-755-2000
              First Osborne Group
              P.O. Box 3474
              Daly City, CA. 94015-0474

These folks are reputed to have mucho goodies, and concerning CP/M machines
of *all* flavors, too!

Cheers.

--------------------------\ /-----------------------------------------------
INTERNET:[e-mail] | "Could you please continue the petty bickering?
BITNET: [e-mail] |  I find it most intriguing."   ---    Data,
Ken Tindle - Lexington, KY |  Star Trek, The Next Generation, "Haven"
--------------------------/ \-----------------------------------------------

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Date: 13 Mar 90  1:40 -0600
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: test
Message-ID: <845*[e-mail]>

Hello, this is a test message.

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Date: 15 Mar 90 08:52:54 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!dkuug!freja.diku.dk!skinfaxe.diku.dk![e-mail]  (Jens Tingleff)
Subject: Z80 Compilers & Cross Compilers
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Peter Peter Weldon) writes:

>I am looking for Z80 compiler or cross-compilers that can produce
>stand alone code for an embedded real-time enviroment.
>Pascal, C, Forth or Modula 2 compilers are what I am looking for.
>Cross compilers hosted on a PC are also fine. Does anyone have any
>suggestion. If you mail I will summarize on the net.

I have used Hochstrasser M-2 for a stand-alone system with great success.
Hochstrasser  sold the right for Hochstrasser M-2 to some-one else
(or did his company simply fold..). That some-one else also
markets a cross compiler that runs on PC (I think). Anyway, you
could just run the CP/M80 version on a simulator on a HUGE PC, that
should be plenty fast.. .

Apart from the lack of a symbolic debugger, I can find no fault with
Hochstrasser M-2. Due to the simplicity of the language (i.e no file-system
unless required, no fancy graphics or anything) you have a
very good idea of what goes into your ROM's. The code produced is
fairly compact, my 1100 line program compiled into appr. 4K of code.

The code is fairly stable (i.e. I have NEVER found an error), the
compiler is compiled by itself.. .

You can buy the assembler source for the run time library, which means
that
    -a you can use sophisticated commands of super-Z80
       processors, or coprocessors.

    -b you can catch the error messages (only three :
       REAL math overflow, out of heap & out of stack).
       Alternatively you can move the code up (using the linker
       to do this), so that a call to address 0005 (BDOS entry)
       leads to a re-start.. .

The linker of the Hochstrasser system can be made to put the
code / data / heap / stack anywhere, so that a system with
non-contiguous and/or mixed RAM-ROM memory works.

You can interface assmebler routines (using a normal DEFINTION
module, and a converter program to make a REL file appear
to be compiled by Hochstrasser) to the code with no problems.
This is not really necessary (unless you want speed, in which case
I'd recommend a 68000 based system..), except for port IN/OUT
routines that are no provided in the normal system (again included
in the runtime lib source).

The language supported conforms to Ed.2 of Wirths book,
except it doesn't provide co-routines or interupt handlers.
Co-routines and INT handlers are, however, included in the runtime
library source.

The price is reasonable, even for hobby use.

Mail me if you want specifics of the company currently selling
Hochstrasser M-2 (I only hope I didn't throw out their letter),
alternatively you could talk to Grey Matter, the british shop
that sells compilers, they advertise in BYTE, call them on phone for
good service, write them for slow service..)


As for the general suitability of M-2 as a language for embedded systems,
I can only say that I prefer it to anything. You can fiddle with bits
as much as you like (which makes programming of peripherial chips
a breeze), and at the same time have a tight type-checking sytem etc.


    Jens
[e-mail] is
Jens Tingleff MSc EE, Research Assistent at DIKU
    Institute of Computer Science, Copenhagen University
Snail mail: DIKU Universitetsparken 1 DK2100 KBH O

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 90 18:10 CST
From: Doctor WHO <[e-mail]>
Subject: ZMP overlay for C128
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone out there have an overlay for ZMP1.5 on the Commodore 128 that they
could send me?  I know little about assembly and noting about Z80 assembly so
I can't make one on my own.  Any help is much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

   Cory Hug

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 16 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   45

Today's Topics:
                          ark/unark (2 msgs)
                           Bondwell Model 2
                       S-100 documentation help
                      SIMTEL20 directories moved
                UZI-280 (unix-clone for Z280) (2 msgs)
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Date: 14 Mar 90 22:02:34 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!anasaz![e-mail]  (Chad R. Larson)
Subject: ark/unark
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have succeeded in getting the Simtel20 server at North Dakota to send
me some files.  The first one I got was the CP/M index, which was in an
archive along with some support files.

After I concatenated and "uudecode"ed the archive parts, I tried to
unarchive it using the archive program on our Unix machine.  This is the
System Enhancement Associates ARC 5.12 program ported to SystemV by Mike
Stump and Chris Seaman.  The Unix version identifies itself as version
1.1 dated 27 Mar 87.  This attempt failed, with various error messages
that generally indicated the archive was corrupted.

I then got the server to send me the CP/M program "unarc" (version 1.6,
dated 3/21/87) from the starter kit directory.  This program successfully
unpacked the archive.

My question is this: Why couldn't the unix version of unarc manipulate
the archive?  Aren't the formats supposed to be the same?  Has anyone
else tried this combination?  I want to be able to completely process
(uudecode/unark/whatever) files from Simtel20 on my Unix machine so I
can print the documentation on its high-speed laser printer and examine
the README files before I kermit them on to my CP/M boxes.  Shouldn't
this be possible?

Thanks for any insight.
    -crl
--
Chad R. Larson          ...{mcdphx,asuvax}!anasaz!chad or [e-mail]
Anasazi, Inc. - 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120, Phoenix, Az 85020
[phone]            "I read the news today, oh boy!"  -- John Lennon

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 1990  16:30 MST
From: "Frank J. Wancho" <[e-mail]>
Subject: ark/unark
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Chad,

You need the latest version of ARC for Unix based on ARC 5.21.  It is
available in PD2:<UNIX-C.ARC-PROGS>.  There are several versions
available, depending on which version of Unix you have.  See the file
000-INDEX.TXT for more information.

--Frank

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Date: 15 Mar 90 19:31:34 GMT
From: orc!inews!cadev5![e-mail]  (Doug Braun ~)
Subject: Bondwell Model 2
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] ("Mitchell F. Wyle") writes:

>2. What's the latest word on vi clones for cp/m?  Anyone running the
>   "S" editor?

What is "S"?  Is this related to "Stevie" (the Vi clone for Minix)?
I started ported Stevie to CP/M, but I realized it just would not fit.
Also, even if it were trimmed down, there would not be enough memory
left over to hold a document of any size.

Anyway, does anyone know of a screen-based editor for CP/M
(or any other OS, as long as it could be ported) that I can get
the source code for?

Has anyone seen source code for the "VDE" or "VDO" editors?  These
are small, fast, in-memory editors with Wordstar-inspired command sets.

I am looking for this so my UZI unix-clone operating system can
have a display-based editor.  (Ask me about UZI-280, which runs
on the Z-280, and gives you 64K process sizes with protection,
and (soon to come) paging, split I and D space (64K+64K), and all
the other goodies you get on a PDP-11 running 7th Edition Unix!)

Doug Braun                Intel Corp CAD
                    408 765-4279

 / decwrl \
 | hplabs |
-| oliveb |- !intelca!mipos3!cadev4!dbraun
 | amd    |
 \ qantel /

 or:

 [e-mail]

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Date: 15 Mar 90 19:25:41 GMT
From: uw-entropy!dataio!pilchuck!nwnexus!slovax![e-mail]  (hal)
Subject: S-100 documentation help
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi all!  I've just inherited a whole grunch of S-100 stuff, and I'd like to
try rebuilding a museum piece.  (I have a Cromemco in constant use, but this
new toy would just be for fun.)

It's a Franklin Systems (Westlake, Calif) box, with an IMSAI (yup, it's there)
front panel.  Among boards for which I have no documentation are:

MITS 8800B (rev 0) - 8080A CPU
Microdesign MR 8 - ROM board
Solid State Music - 2K/4K EPROM board
Solid State Music MB-6A - 8K RAM
Franklin Systems 480001B - 8K RAM
Franklin Systems 250019 - triple UART
IMS Assoc. Inc. RAM-4A (rev2) - 4K RAM
IMSAI PIO (rev2) - parallel IO
Tarbell 1001 (revD) - Cassette Interface
Tarbell MDL 1011 (rev d) - disk interface?

Plus, of course, the front panel.

It's under about a zillion pounds of dust.  Any/all assistance appreciated.
I think it would be fun to rebuild this beast.  I also have a couple cards
*with* docs, so it's even better than it sounds (of course to one who didn't
cut their teeth on something like this, it probably doesn't sound good at
all!)

Thanks,
Hal Miller
[e-mail]
(w) [phone]

P.S.
Unfortunately, I won't be in the vicinity during the Portland, Or. swap
meet this June, or I'd try that.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Mar 1990  23:23 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: SIMTEL20 directories moved
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The following SIMTEL20 directories have been moved from PD2: to PD3:

<CPMUG>         <ZSYS>

<HZ100>         <PCNET>

This should have no effect on you if you use the logical device PD:
to reference these directories.  The FILES.IDX in each of the above
directories is being updated as I write this.

--Keith

------------------------------

Date: 16 Mar 90 08:44:02 GMT
From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!kunivv1![e-mail]  (Privileged Account)
Subject: UZI-280 (unix-clone for Z280)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Doug Braun ~) writes:

>I am looking for this so my UZI unix-clone operating system can
>have a display-based editor.  (Ask me about UZI-280, which runs
>on the Z-280, and gives you 64K process sizes with protection,
>and (soon to come) paging, split I and D space (64K+64K), and all
>the other goodies you get on a PDP-11 running 7th Edition Unix!)

I'm asking ! I do know UZI-80 (UZI for the Z80), but it didn't fit our
system (no hard disk available, alas). Could you present some more
information please ?

--
Luc Rooijakkers                                 Internet: [e-mail]
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science     UUCP: uunet!cs.kun.nl!lwj
University of Nijmegen, the Netherlands         tel. [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 16 Mar 90 17:48:46 GMT
From: orc!inews!cadev5![e-mail]  (Doug Braun ~)
Subject: UZI-280 (unix-clone for Z280)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

For starters, I refer you to my original UZI for the Z80,
which is available on SIMTEL20.  After that, I will
describe that status of UZI-280. Here is my UZI abstract:



        UZI: UNIX Z-80 IMPLEMENTATION

          Written by Douglas Braun


Introduction:

UZI is an implementation of the Unix kernel written for a Z-80 based
computer.  It implements almost all of the functionality of the
7th Edition Unix kernel.  UZI was written to run on one specific
collection of custom-built hardware, but since it can easily have device
drivers added to it, and it does not use any memory management hardware,
it should be possible to port it to numerous computers that currently use
the CP/M operating system.  The source code is written mostly in C,
and was compiled with The Code Works' Q/C compiler.  UZI's code was
written from scratch, and contains no AT&T code, so it is not subject
to any of AT&T's copyright or licensing restrictions.  Numerous 7th
Edition programs have been ported to UZI with little or no difficulty,
including the complete Bourne shell, ed, sed, dc, cpp, etc.


How it works:

Since there is no standard memory management hardware on 8080-family
computers, UZI uses "total swapping" to achieve multiprocessing.
This has two implications:  First, UZI requires a reasonably fast
hard disk.  Second, there is no point in running a different process
while a process is waiting for disk I/O.  This simplifies the design
of the block device drivers, since they do not have to be interrupt-based.

UZI itself occupies the upper 32K of memory, and the currently running
process occupies the lower 32K.   Since UZI currently barely fits in 32K,
a full 64K of RAM is necessary.

UZI does need some additional hardware support.  First, there must be
some sort of clock or timer that can provide a periodic interrupt.
Also, the current implementation uses an additional real-time clock
to get the time for file timestamps, etc.  The current TTY driver assumes
an interrupt-driven keyboard, which should exist on most systems.
The distribution contains code for hard and floppy disk drivers, but
since these were written for custom hardware, they are provided only
as templates to write new ones.


How UZI is different than real Unix:

UZI implements almost all of the 7th Edition functionality.
All file I/O, directories, mountable file systems, user and group IDs,
pipes, and applicable device I/O are supported.  Process control
(fork(), execve(), signal(), kill(), pause(), alarm(), and wait()) are fully
supported.  The number of processes is limited only by the swap space
available.  As mentioned above,  UZI implements Unix well enough to
run the Bourne shell in its full functionality.  The only changes made
to the shell's source code were to satisfy the limitations of the C compiler.

Here is a (possibly incomplete) list of missing features and limitations:

    The debugger- and profiler-related system calls do not exist.

    The old 6th edition seek() was implemented, instead of lseek().

    The supplied TTY driver is bare-bones.  It supports only one port,
    and most IOCTLs are not supported.

    Inode numbers are only 16-bit, so filesystems are 32 Meg or less.

    File dates are not in the standard format.  Instead they look like
    those used by MS-DOS.

    The 4.2BSD execve() was implemented.  Additional flavors of exec()
    are supported by the library.

    The format of the device driver switch table is unlike that of
    the 7th Edition.

    The necessary semaphores and locking mechanisms to implement
    reentrant disk I/O are not there.  This would make it harder to
    implement interrupt-driven disk I/O without busy-waiting.


A Description of this Release:

Here is a list of the files supplied, and a brief description of each:


intro:        What you are reading

config.h:    Setup parameters, such as table sizes, and the device
        driver switch table.

unix.h:        All strcuture declarations, typedefs and defines.
        (Includes things like errno.h).

extern.h:    Declarations of all global variables and tables.

data.c:        Dummy to source extern.h and devine globals.

dispatch.c:    System call dispatch table.

scall1.c:    System calls, mostly file-related.

scall2.c:    Rest of system calls.

filesys.c:    Routines for managing file system.

process.c:    Routines for process management and context switching.
        Somewhat machine-dependent.

devio.c:    Generic I/O routines, including queue routines.

devtty.c:    Simple TTY driver, slightly-machine dependent.

devwd.c:    Hard disk driver.  Very machine-dependent.

devflop.c:    Floppy disk driver.  Very machine-dependent.

devmisc.c:    Simple device drivers, such as /dev/mem.

machdep.c:    Machine-dependent code, especially real-time-clock and
        interrupt handling code.

extras.c:    Procedures missing from the Q/C compiler's library.

filler.mac:    Dummy to make linker load UZI at correct address.

makeunix.sub:    CP/M SUBMIT file to compile everything.

loadunix.sub:    CP/M SUBMIT file to load everything.


Miscellaneous Notes:

UZI was compiled with the Code Works Q/C C compiler and the Microsoft
M80 assembler under the CP/M operating system, on the same hardware
it runs on.  Also used was a version of cpp ported to CP/M, since
the Q/C compiler does not handle macros with arguments.  However, there
are only a couple of these in the code, and they could easily be removed.

Because UZI occupies the upper 32K of memory, the standard L80 linker
could not be used to link it.  Instead, a homebrew L80 replacement linker
was used.  This generated a 64K-byte CP/M .COM file, which has the lower
32K pruned by the CP/M PIP utility.  This is the reason for appearance
of the string "MOMBASSA" in filler.mac and loadunix.sub.

To boot UZI, a short CP/M program was run that reads in the UZI image,
copies it to the upper 32K of memory, and jumps to its start address.
Other CP/M programs were written to build, inspect, and check UZI filesystems
under CP/M.  These made it possible to have a root file system made before
starting up UZI.  If the demand exists, these programs can be included
in another release.


Running programs under UZI:

A number of 7th Edition, System V, and 4.2BSD programs were ported to
UZI.  Most notably, the Bourne shell and ed run fine under UZI.
In addition the 4.2BSD stdio library was also ported.  This, along
with the Code Works Q/C library and miscellaneous System V library
functions, was used when porting programs.

Due to obvious legal reasons, the source or executables for most of these
programs cannot be released.  However, some kernel-dependent programs
such as ps and fsck were written from scratch and can be included in future
releases.  Also, a package was created that can be linked to CP/M .COM
files that will allow them to run under UZI.  This was used to get
the M80 assembler and L80 linker to run under UZI.  Cpp was also
ported to UZI.  However, it was not possible to fit the Q/C compiler
into 32K, so all programs (and UZI itself) were cross-compiled under CP/M.

The Minix operating system, written for PCs by Andrew Tanenbaum et al,
contains many programs that should compile and run under UZI.  Since
Minix is much less encumbered by licensing provisions than real Unix,
it would make sense to port Minix programs to UZI.  In fact, UZI itself
could be ported to the PC, and used as a replacement for the Minix kernel.


#########################################################################


UZI-280 is in the process of being written.  My computer system
now has a Z280 with 128K of memory.  The kernel and user processes
now run in seperate address spaces, but total swapping is still used
at present.  The various hardware traps of the Z280 (privileged instruction,
system stack overflow, access violation) are handled correctly.
There is proper protection, in the sense that a user process cannot munch
kernel data, like in the original UZI.  Current plans include allowing
user processes to run seperated I and D address spaces (thus allowing
64K of code and 64K of data), and implementing demand paging instead of total
swapping.  UZI280 will then have the power and functionality (more or less) of
a PDP-11/34 or PDP-11/60 running 7th Edition Unix.

By the way, I have modified The Code Works' Q/C Compiler to generate Z280
instructions and also handle a few more syntactic constructs (like
initalization of automatics).  Does anyone know if The Code Works still
sells this compiler (or is even in business)?  Any input on how I might
legally distribute this would be appreciated.

P.S.  You do NOT need my Z280 compiler to compile UZI280, just some assembler
macros to define special Z280 instructions.
Stay Tuned,



Doug Braun                Intel Corp CAD
                    408 765-4279

 / decwrl \
 | hplabs |
-| oliveb |- !intelca!mipos3!cadev4!dbraun
 | amd    |
 \ qantel /

 or:

 [e-mail]

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Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 19-Mar-90 10:44:29
Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 90 10:44:29 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #46
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 19 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   46

Today's Topics:
                              ark/unark
               Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips
                         Osborne 1 ext video
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 16 Mar 90 15:59:00 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!tmsoft!masnet!crs1![e-mail]  (MARK HORNBLOWER)
Subject: ark/unark
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

cP>After I concatenated and "uudecode"ed the archive parts, I tried to
cP>unarchive it using the archive program on our Unix machine.  This is
cP>the System Enhancement Associates ARC 5.12 program ported to SystemV
cP>by Mike Stump and Chris Seaman.

cP>My question is this: Why couldn't the unix version of unarc manipulate
cP>the archive?

You've answered your own question ... it has been my experience that
anything from SEA is bound to be either:

A) Increbibly lame
B) Possibly dangerous
C) Both

Mark Hornblower - R.A.H.F.B.P.
---
 ~ DeLuxe 1.11a20 #2073  Pop Music - Weak Sounds For Weak Minds

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Date: 16 Mar 90 20:20:42 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!balu![e-mail]  (Tilmann Reh)
Subject: Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello Ralph,

you have to distinguish between two 58321's :
- the MSM 58321 from OKI is a functional (not pin2pin) replacement of the 5832,
- the RTC 58321 from Seiko-Epson is a direct replacement for MSM 58321, with
  built-in quartz (let XT terminals open).

By the way, if you are designing a new circuit, think about the RTC 72421,
also from Seiko-Epson. It's a newer design, making the RTC registers available
via direct bus connection using 16 I/O (or Memory) addresses. The access time
is 120 ns, which should be small enough for every micro. Quartz included also.
Or have a look at the new chips of Dallas Semiconductor, i.e. DS 1286 or 1287.
These contain RTC with quartz, 50 bytes of NVRAM and the appropriate Lithium
Source for 10 years operation (guaranteed).
The RTC 72421 is housed in a 16-pin-DIP, the DS 1286 comes in a 28 pin and the
DS1287 in a 24 pin DIP case with some height (cause of the battery).

Look at the new chips instead of using the old ones, of which noone knows how
long they will be manufactured...

greetings from West Germany, Tilmann Reh

disclaimer: I have no connection to the companies mentioned above, instead of
using their chips with great effort.

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Date: 15 Mar 90 16:26:33 GMT
From: hpfcso!hpfcbig![e-mail]  (Wade Satterfield)
Subject: Osborne 1 ext video
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

To make the internal monitor of your Ozzy work you only need to jumper all
of the pins on the top side of the edge connector to each of the pins on the
bottom side.  I think this means hook 1 to 2, 3 to 4, 5 to 6. ...  I
have all of the Ozzy schematics but not here.  Only two of the pins are
needed to drive a normal monitor.  You could get plugins for RCA connectors
from many places.

I would try to contact someone at FOG (first Osborne Group) for vendors
that still sell such things.  I think FOG is listed in the computer shopper

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 90 21:15:20 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #47
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 21 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   47

Today's Topics:
                       16 Hard Sectored Floppy
                  Is There an Anonymous FTP server?
                             KAYPRO HELP
           Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips (2 msgs)
          Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips (summary)
                    Request for S-100 front panel.
                          Unix ARC(tm) etc.
                         Wanted: Info on BBS
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 90 22:53:28 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cadillac!sunstroke.Berkeley.EDU![e-mail]  (Michael Strong)
Subject: 16 Hard Sectored Floppy
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

There is a history professor here at the University of Texas at Austin
who needs
to retrieve some Civil War related documents from some old 16
hard-sectored CP/M
floppies and is unable to.  Is there anyone out there who might be a
kind soul and
who would be willing to copy his CP/M floppies onto some more current,
conventional
MS-DOS soft sectored floppies?

Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.

I am sending this request on behalf of a Professor Tom Cutrer, of U.T.

Michael Strong               MCC CAD Program
AT&T:    512/338-3642           P.O. Box 200195, Austin, TX 78720   [OR]
ARPA:    [e-mail]           3500 W. Balcones Ctr. Dr., Austin, TX 78759
UUCP:    {harvard,gatech,uunet}!cs.utexas.edu!strong%mcc.com

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Date: 21 Mar 90 23:08:46 GMT
From: uupsi!rodan![e-mail]  (Francis N. Godfrey)
Subject: Is There an Anonymous FTP server?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I don't have regular access to this system, so please respond by E-mail.

I am looking for a Communications package that will work with the
Apple II version of SoftCard CP/M ver 2.23.

What I need is a package that will emulate a VT100 terminal. The package will
also have to work with an External Terminal since my poor II+ keyboard
called it quits. (But since this CP/M this should be no problem.)

If you have any hints, any FTPable sites, just throw some E-mail my
way. The address you see will work!!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Francis N. Godfrey |Computing and Network Services|"An undergrad with time..."
Syracuse University|Micro Cluster Support         |"We bring servers to you. "
                               |[e-mail]
"I want to be *dainty*, darling." -- Lt. Worf
            from Star Trek: The Next Regurgitation

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Date: 19 Mar 90 20:16:07 GMT
From: att!cbnewsh![e-mail]  (john.a.siegel)
Subject: KAYPRO HELP
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

HELP! Colts Neck, N.J. Volunteer FIre Company has its fund drive database
on a 5 1/2 " disk used with a Kaypro with 2.6M ROBIE disk drive.  Both disk
drives have crashed and they can't get new ones.  Need a way to copy the
database from the 2.6M floppy to a regular CPM or MS-DOS format floppy or
floppies. Other solutions to the problem are welcome.  Please reply direct to:
    Marc Pierce
    21 Laurelwood Drive,
    Colts Neck, N. J. 07722
    201-946-8366

Please do not reply by posting or email as the poster
does not read this newsgroup.

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 90 18:09:57 GMT
From: sumax!amc-gw!sigma!flash![e-mail]  (William Swan)
Subject: Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dag Erik Lindberg) writes:
}> If you are building your own hardware, the 5832 has very slow access
}>time.  A 4 Mhz Z80 will probably not be relaible when reading/writing the
}>5832.  A slower processor (i.e. 2.5 Mhz) may work...
}Isn't this why wait states were invented? [...]

Yes, but the 5832 is S-l-o-w with a capital S. (My Alspa system uses one for
its clock/calendar.) If you wanty to do something else, like service a keyboard
interrupt, during that time you're out of luck. Better bet is to hang the thing
off a parallel port.


--
Bill Swan      [e-mail]          Send postal address for info:
    Innocent but in prison in Washington State for 13.5 years (or more):
    Ms. Debbie Runyan: incarcerated 01/1989, scheduled release 07/2002.
                       In now:  1 year,   1 month,   3 weeks,  0 days.

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Date: 17 Mar 90 17:52:07 GMT
From: pilchuck!dataio!shiloh!fnx![e-mail]  (Dag Erik Lindberg)
Subject: Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gregory Ebert) writes:
> If you are building your own hardware, the 5832 has very slow access
>time.  A 4 Mhz Z80 will probably not be relaible when reading/writing the
>5832.  A slower processor (i.e. 2.5 Mhz) may work...

Isn't this why wait states were invented? If you are designing your own
hardware, or in any properly designed hardware, the speed of the peripheral
chip is unrelated to the reliability of operation, only to the performance.
This is something that has largely been forgotten in the @#$%^ Clone world.
Used to be, on systems where different CPU clock speeds were likely to be
encountered, there would be a jumper on each add in board to set the wait
states for that board, to match it to the processor speed. If this practice
had not been dropped with the Big Blue Box there wouldn't be all the
problems of finding peripherals that work at the new, higher clock speeds.
But that's another story in another news group.


--
del AKA Erik Lindberg

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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 90 11:26 HST
From: Ralph Becker-Szendy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Need info on 5832 and 58321 clock chips (summary)

Hi.  About a week ago I asked about the 5832 and 58321 clock chips.
Thanks to Roger Hanscom, Greg Ebert, Paul Lenz, Bill Robison and Tilmann
Reh,  I now know everything about the two chips.  Funny coincidence: The
day after posting my question, I got the databook from Dallas
Semiconductor in the mail (when I ordered it I didn't even know they
make clock chips).  They have a neat chip (DS1287A), which contains a
real-time-clock, quartz, 50 bytes of non-volatilie RAM, lithium battery,
and the circuitry to keep everything happy.  It nicely kills two birds
with one chip, and I'll just try it out (as soon as it arrives in the
mail).

Again, thanks to all who responded to my question.

By the way ... if am not affiliated with Dallas.  I haven't even got
their chip yet, just ordered it.

Ralph Becker-Szendy                       UHHEPB=24730::RALPH (HEPNet,SPAN)
University of Hawaii / High Energy Physics Group        [e-mail]
Watanabe Hall #203, 2505 Correa Road, Honolulu, HI 96822      [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 20 Mar 90 17:38:02 GMT
From: nwnexus!slovax![e-mail]  (jeff)
Subject: Request for S-100 front panel.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

   Having been tweaked with nostalgia by the recent requests for
info on S-100 stuff, I dredged out the garage and found my old
dinosaur. So fond were the memories, that i'd like to bring it
back to life, if for no other reason than to watch it suck up
paper tape and run interesting patterns on the lights.
   Most everything is intact. However, I find myself lacking
a front panel.

My request:  DOES ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE AN IMSAI (or equivalent)
             FRONT PANEL (with or without documentaion) THAT THEY
             WOULD BE WILLING TO PART WITH?

   I will pay all shipping, and will negotiate purchase if
necessary. (In other words, if it's gonna be expensive, I'll
probably just bury the beast in the garage again!)

   Thanks muchly...
      [e-mail]

--
[ [e-mail] -- Jeff Loucks, H(206)851-8908 W(206)967-8018 ]

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Date: 16 Mar 90 21:23:54 GMT
From: sumax!polari!rwing![e-mail]  (Jeffery Foy)
Subject: Unix ARC(tm) etc.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

To the person who couldn't unarc stuff from simtel20...

One reason why you couldn't unarc the file(s) under Unix might
be that the files in the .ARC were squashed (i.e. type 9
compression). I don't think Unix ARC can handle those files yet.

Jeff

--
Jeffery Foy      uunet!pilchuck!rwing!jeffery
  -or-           uunet!rutgers!seaeast!jeff

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Date: 20 Mar 90 10:25:38 GMT
From: snorkelwacker!usc!jarthur!petunia!polyslo![e-mail]  (Mike Jarvis)
Subject: Wanted: Info on BBS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have a Kaypro 4/84 with 2 floppies that I would like to use for a local BBS.
I have the following questions:
    1. What is the biggest/fastest hard drive this machine can hold?
    2. Where can I get the boards needed to put one in?  (How much $?)
    3. What BBS software would you recommend, why, and where can I get it?
        - I am looking for the following in a BBS:
                * Easy to use file system
                * Internet mailing abilities (not a must)
Thanks in advance.  I will post a summary if there is interest.  I think this
is a great use for these machines.  I would like a discussion on the processor
speed vs 2400 bps.  Does this pose any problems?  I would guess for 9600, one
would definitly need a better/faster processor for performace.  Am I entirely
wrong?  ( I also have a SWP 256K Ramdisk to help speed things up a bit.)

[e-mail]

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Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 23-Mar-90 22:15:39
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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 90 22:15:39 MST
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #48
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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 23 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   48

Today's Topics:
                             Amstrad 8256
                       North* CPU Card -- help!
                          Original Adventure
                          QTERM C128 overlay
                      Trenton Computer Festival
      Wanted: algorithm to calculate checksum used by Hex loader
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 22 Mar 90 10:17 EST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Amstrad 8256

I recently put out a message regarding kermit for the Amstrad 8256.  I got
several responses which I appreciate!  My problem is that I don't have a
serial communications adapter and cannot download the kermit files from
CUVMA.  Does anyone know of a person that distributes it on diskettes that
I could simply order it from rather than downloading?

Thanks!

Terry Lewis
University of Tennessee at Martin
TLEWIS@UTKVX

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Date: 23 Mar 90 06:59:30 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Roger Hanscom)
Subject: North* CPU Card -- help!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi All --

Can anybody help me with a North* question??  I acquired a North* cpu
recently for a few bucks.  I'd like to try it out, but have no dox.
The silk screen next to a 16-pin header says "POJ Address", which I
assume to be the power-on-jump vector.  The header is wired like this:

               +--------------------------+         /`
               |          /^\             |        /
               |  o--o--o/ o \o  o--o--o  |       /
               |   \___     \______    |  |    top right corner
               |       \           \   |  |     of card.
               |  o  o  o  o  o  o  o  o  |
            *  |                          |
               +--------------------------+

* is marked pin 1.  Where is this guy going to start up??  Why are there
three connections here??  The lower right two pins are ground, but pin #3
(?) doesn't appear to be +5.  Is that 0D000h??   Anything "funny" about
the North* Z80A cpu that I should know??  It's marked "ZPB 023513" and
 "ZPB-A ASSY 08014J S/N E-1-B"

                  roger        [e-mail]

                  Upstairs, Over a Vacant Lot, Inc.

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 90 13:30:05 GMT
From: Paul Clayson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Original Adventure

Has anybody got a copy of the original adventure game that was stored
in the Simtel archive directory <SIGM.VOL011> (which doesn't exist
anymore!!!), or a source listing of the game written in standard C.

Thanks in advance

Paul Clayson - [e-mail]
             - [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 23 Mar 90 20:48:35 MST
From: Raymond Carter STEWS-NR-AD <[e-mail]>
Subject: QTERM C128 overlay

Recently uploaded to SIMTEL20, and located in PD2:<CPM.QTERM> is file
QTERM128.ARK.  It includes my overlay for QTERM version 4.2.  Also included is
a copy of the .COM file.  This overlay has a couple of civilized touches, like
resetting the baud rate to a low number upon exit (that significantly helps
                    the system response.
Any comments are welcome.


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 23 Mar 90 14:54:36 EST
From: Pete Holsberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Trenton Computer Festival
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

TRENTON COMPUTER FESTIVAL 1990

The 15th annual Trenton Computer Festival will be held on April 21-22,
1990 on the campus of Mercer County Community College, Trenton, NJ.

A ticket costs $7.00 ($3.00 for students and senior citizens) and
provides admission for both days.  A "Sunday-only" ticket costs $5.00.

The keynote speaker will be David House, executive vice president of
Intel Corp.  He will speak in the Kelsey Theater at 4:00 PM Saturday.

Tickets for the banquet are $15.00.  Once more, Sol Libes will be the
master of ceremonies.

Because MCCC is a commuter college, the Flea Market will be BIGGER THAN
EVER BEFORE!!

ALL parking will be at Mercer County Park, with entrances on Hughes
Drive and on Old Trenton Rd. (county route 535).  A free bus will take
you to within 50 feet of the ticket booth.

Directions To Trenton Computer Festival 1990 At Mercer
County Community College, 1200 Old Trenton Rd., Trenton.


Automobile

From North via U. S. 1:
Follow U. S. 1 South of Princeton. Exit onto Quakerbridge
Road (South 533). After two miles, turn left onto Hughes
Drive. Hughes Drive passes Mercer County Park (automotive
parking) on left. Proceed to Old Trenton Road. Turn left on
Old Trenton Road to main campus entrance.

From South via U. S. 1:
Cross toll bridge into New Jersey on U. S. 1 Proceed North
past I-295 interchange. Exit onto Quakerbridge Road (South
522). After two miles, turn left onto Hughes Drive. Hughes
Drive passes Mercer County Park (automotive parking) on
left. Proceed to Old Trenton Road. Turn left on Old Trenton
Road to main campus entrance.

From South via Interstate 95:
North on Interstate 95 which becomes Interstate 295 South.
Continue to U. S. 1 Exit. Exit onto U. S. 1 North. Proceed
one mile and exit onto Quakerbridge Road (South 533). After
two miles, turn left onto Hughes Drive. Hughes Drive passes
Mercer County Park (automotive parking) on left. Proceed to
Old Trenton Road. Turn left on Old Trenton Road to main
campus entrance.

From South via Interstate 295:
North on Interstate 295 to U. S. 1 Exit. Exit onto U. S. 1
North. Proceed one mile and exit onto Quakerbridge Road
(South 533). After two miles, turn left onto Hughes Drive.
Hughes Drive passes Mercer County Park (automotive parking)
on left. Proceed to Old Trenton Road. Turn left on Old
Trenton Road to main campus entrance.

From North via New Jersey Turnpike:
Exit at Exit 8 at Hightstown onto 33 West. Take 33 West to
571 in downtown Hightstown. Turn right onto 571. Take 571 to
535 (GE (former RCA) Space Center on right). Turn left on
535 (Old Trenton Road). MCCC is approximately 5 miles from
571. Old Trenton Road passes Mercer County Park (automobile
parking) on the right. Main campus entrance is next to park.

From South via New Jersey Turnpike:
Exit at Exit 7A onto Interstate 195 West. Interstate 195
West becomes Interstate 295 North. North on Interstate 295
to U. S. 1 Exit. Exit onto U. S. 1 North. Proceed one mile
and exit onto Quakerbridge Road (South 533). After two miles,
turn left onto Hughes Drive. Hughes Drive passes Mercer
County Park (automotive parking) on left. Proceed to Old
Trenton Road. Turn left on Old Trenton Road to main campus
entrance.

Automobile Parking:
Automobile parking will be available at Mercer County Park
which is immediately adjacent to MCCC and has entrances on
both Hughes Road and Old Trenton Road on either side of the
college. Do not expect to park on the campus. Free parking
shuttle bus transportation will be available. Plan on a half
mile walk or a two mile bus ride.

By Public Transportation (Train):

Take AMTRAK, SEPTA, or New Jersey Transit to the AMTRAK
Station in Trenton. Bus service is available on Saturday,
hourly to Mercer County Community College from 7:00 AM to
10:00 PM. Take the 609 bus. Be sure the bus is marked
"609MCCC" as not all 609 buses travel to MCCC. No bus
service will be available on Sunday.

No bus transportation is available from Princeton Junction
Station.

--
Prof. Peter J. Holsberg      UUCP: {...!rutgers!}princeton!mccc!pjh
Eng'g Tech'gy/Comp'r/Math    Mercer College - 1200 Old Trenton Road
Trenton, NJ 08690            Voice: 609-586-4800  FAX: [phone]
Home of the 1990 TRENTON COMPUTER FESTIVAL, April 21-22, 1990

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Date: 23 Mar 90 19:43:32 GMT
From: snorkelwacker!usc!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx![e-mail]  (Mike O'Donnell)
Subject: Wanted: algorithm to calculate checksum used by Hex loader
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for the algorithm that is used to calculate the
checksum in the Intel hex output format.  Any info will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Mike O'Donnell
ut-emx!mike

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 17:15:10 MST
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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 27 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   49

Today's Topics:
                              ark/unark
             COBOL-80 ACPDAT.ASM Routine for XEROX 820-II
                              DECmate II
         query for Claude Abbott (was RE: S-100 front panel)
                        Small C compiler docs
                       The Ultraboard (3 msgs)
                           UUCP under CP/M
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 00:27:50 EST
From: [e-mail] (David Goodenough)
Subject: ark/unark
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Brian Hughes) says:
> I guess you're not experienced enough with CP/M to know the ark
> compression is different than the standard arc.  Ark is NOT a SEA product.
> But then, knowing everything, you knew that already didn't you?

I beg to differ. CP/M .ARK's _ARE_ compatible (and the same format) as DOS
.ARC's. I use UNARC16 (on a CP/M machine) on both types very regularly, and
it groks type 9 compression just fine - it will also unwrap either form of
AR[CK] file without noting any difference.

For those not already in the know, the only reason an .ARK is not a .ARC
is so that you know it's CP/M material inside.
--
    [e-mail] - David Goodenough        +---+
                        IHS    | +-+-+
    ..... !harvard!xait!pallio!dg            +-+-+ |
AKA:    [e-mail]              +---+

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 12:03:40 CST
From: Steve Westlund <[e-mail]>
Subject: COBOL-80 ACPDAT.ASM Routine for XEROX 820-II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

  Does anyone have an ACPDAT.ASM routine that I can add to my COBOL-80
runtime library?  This routine returns the system monitor date or time
as requested by a COBOL ACCEPT statement. Now all I get is the compiler
release date or time.  Microsoft has provided a skelleton ACPDAT.ASM
routine with the compiler documentation, but I have not been able to get
it to work on my system.

  If you happen to have a functional COBOL-80 ACPDAT.ASM routine for a
XEROX 820-II, or similar CP/M machine, I would appreciate your help!

  Thanks,

  Steve Westlund
  Information Systems
  Campus Box 1110
  Washington University
  One Brookings Drive
  St. Louis, MO  63130
  [phone]

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Date: 24 Mar 90 20:28:15 GMT
From: imagen!atari!portal!cup.portal.com![e-mail]
Subject: DECmate II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

We have a used DECmate II wordprocessing station which we replaces
with a 386 system and wordpPerfect. I would like to use the DEC
if I can get more software. The board is CPM and seems to run
CPM80. NO hard disk; just floppies. Can I use a communication package
to access the serial port for any use. In  the alternative would it
be very difficult to adapt the case monitor and keyboard to use
with another mother board ; such as an IBM ( MS-DOS) board. Eronomically
it was a great station! ( that is ergonomically). Mainly interested in
what I can salvage

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Date: 27 Mar 90 00:22:39 GMT
From: sumax!amc-gw!pilchuck!nwnexus!slovax![e-mail]  (jeff)
Subject: query for Claude Abbott (was RE: S-100 front panel)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I lost the mail message before I got the sender's name.

RE: Claude Abbott and RDA in Tacoma, WA.

  Claude no longer works for RDA, and I really can't remember
where he went. You might try harryb@ssc-vax (Harry Barnett).
He may remember where Claude is.

  Sorry I can't be more help.

[e-mail]

[ [e-mail] -- Jeff Loucks, H(206)851-8908 W(206)967-8018 ]
--
[ [e-mail] -- Jeff Loucks, H(206)851-8908 W(206)967-8018 ]

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 90 16:24 CST
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: Small C compiler docs
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have located a doc file for the Small C compilers available from
Simtel20 (<cpm.misc>smc203.lbr and <cpm.smallc21>*.lbr).  If anyone is
interested in a copy, let me know.  I would also like to communicate
with someone who uses either of these compilers, as I am still having
some problems getting them to work.

Thanx,

Lance Tagliapietra ([e-mail]) or ([e-mail])

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Date: 23 Mar 90 19:32:34 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink![e-mail]  (Curt Sampson)
Subject: The Ultraboard
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Has anyone heard of (or better yet, used) a product called "The Ultraboard?"
It is a replacement motherboard for the Kaypro (I'm not sure which one) that
has the Hitachi 16-bit Z80 replacement (running at 12 or 16 MHz, I think) and
more memory, among other things.  I'd be interested in getting ahold of one of
these, new or used, if that's possible.  Thanks.
        -cjs    ( [e-mail] )

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Date: 26 Mar 90 07:15:11 GMT
From: pacbell!rtech!squid![e-mail]  (Sergio Aponte)
Subject: The Ultraboard
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Curt Sampson) writes:
>Has anyone heard of (or better yet, used) a product called "The Ultraboard?"
>It is a replacement motherboard for the Kaypro (I'm not sure which one) that
>has the Hitachi 16-bit Z80 replacement (running at 12 or 16 MHz, I think) and
>more memory, among other things.  I'd be interested in getting ahold of one of
>these, new or used, if that's possible.  Thanks.
>        -cjs    ( [e-mail] )


    Please post or copy me on the e-mail.

                    Thanks.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Internet: [e-mail]       Sergio L. Aponte, MTS @ Ingres Corp. |
| UUCP: {sun,mtxinu,pyramid,pacbell,hoptoad,amdahl,cpsc6a}!rtech!squid!sergio |
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Date: 26 Mar 90 16:01:49 GMT
From: texbell!sugar!ficc![e-mail]  (bob cloud)
Subject: The Ultraboard
Message-ID: <N=[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Curt Sampson) writes:
>Has anyone heard of (or better yet, used) a product called "The Ultraboard?"
>It is a replacement motherboard for the Kaypro (I'm not sure which one) that
>has the Hitachi 16-bit Z80 replacement (running at 12 or 16 MHz, I think) and
>more memory, among other things.  I'd be interested in getting ahold of one of
>these, new or used, if that's possible.  Thanks.
>        -cjs    ( [e-mail] )

    Please post or copy me on the e-mail.

Bob Cloud  ---  WTYFYS (We Thank You For Your Support).
Ferranti International Controls Corporation
12808 W. Airport Blvd.  Sugar Land, TX 77478
UUCP: uunet!ficc!bobcloud     ph: [phone]

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Date: 27 Mar 90 06:05:00 GMT
From: dsl.pitt.edu!pitt!darth!insight![e-mail]  (Brian Hughes)
Subject: UUCP under CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

  Awhile back someone posted an article about UUCP running under CP/M.  Is there a public access BBS somewhere that has it?

--
FidoNet : 1:129/65.1 Insight BBS  UUCP/SEAdog/Kitten [phone]
UUCP    : ..pitt!darth!insight!bhh
        : ..{psuvax1|decvax|cadre|}!idis!insight!bhh
        : [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 90 16:35:27 EXP
From: [e-mail]

get pd:<cpm>cpm.crclst
get pd:<*>*.crclst

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 90 13:55:33 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #50
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 30 Mar 90       Volume 90 : Issue   50

Today's Topics:
                  need termcap for kaypro 2 (2 msgs)
                            The Ultraboard
            XLISP: Highest version to run under CP/M-80 ?
                            Z80 compilers
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 28 Mar 90 13:44:40 GMT
From: att!cbnewsc![e-mail]  (Dave Vollman)
Subject: need termcap for kaypro 2
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    I need a termcap file for a kaypro 2 computer. If anyone has
    one or can direct me to a ftp site that might have one,
    I would appreciate it very much. Thanks!

--
"What we have here is    | Dave Vollman (HASA "S" Division "F" Battle Group)
FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE"    | AT&T Bell Laboratories Naperville, IL
 Struther Martin in    | ..!att!ihuxz!dwv
 "Cool Hand Luke"    | These are MY opinions

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Date: 30 Mar 90 05:09:28 GMT
From: bu.edu!xylogics!world![e-mail]  (jim frost)
Subject: need termcap for kaypro 2
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Dave Vollman) writes:
>    I need a termcap file for a kaypro 2 computer. If anyone has
>    one or can direct me to a ftp site that might have one,
>    I would appreciate it very much. Thanks!

Use the ADM3A termcap.  If you have a newer II you might not get
inverse; I don't know because by II is one of the nice old ones.

jim frost
saber software
[e-mail]

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Date: 28 Mar 90 19:28:16 GMT
From: ea.ecn.purdue.edu![e-mail]  (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: The Ultraboard
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Curt Sampson) writes:
>Has anyone heard of (or better yet, used) a product called "The Ultraboard?"
>It is a replacement motherboard for the Kaypro (I'm not sure which one) that
>has the Hitachi 16-bit Z80 replacement (running at 12 or 16 MHz, I think) and
>more memory, among other things.  I'd be interested in getting ahold of one of
>these, new or used, if that's possible.  Thanks.
>        -cjs    ( [e-mail] )

The UltraBoard was a replacement motherboard for the Kaypro's with a
12 MHz Z-280 and 1 Meg of ram.  It was expected to achieve 6 MHz PC AT
speeds.  It had color video for an external monitor.  It was to make
use of the hard disk controller from Advanced Engineering Concepts.

I believe that the name of the company responsible for the UltraBoard
was Hitech Research.  They were the ones who bought up a lot of Kaypro's
stock of Kaypro 10 parts and started assembling them as Kaypro 20's
with Seagate ST-225 drives.

Before that, they had a product called Handyman, which was a plug-in
board that gave you SideKick-like features without using and of the
Kaypro's onbaord ram.  It had its own ram, and its software was in rom.

The UltraBoard was is beta-test about three or four years ago, but
after bugs were found in the video section, HiTech ran out of money
trying to fix the problem.  The last I heard, they were working on a
SCSI interface for '84 Kaypros.

I did talk to someone there over two years ago.  He said that they
would continue development when they could.  I should dig out their
number and give them a call (if they still exist).
--
            Jeffrey J. Wieland
              [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 90 05:10:49 PST
From: "That was Zen, this is Tao." <[e-mail]>
Subject: XLISP: Highest version to run under CP/M-80 ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

What is the highest version of XLISP to run under CP/M-80 ?
[Or DEC RT-11 ?]

CP/M-80 is not mentioned in the manuals from V1.4 on, and
I've never seen V1.3.  V1.5 and up are definetly too big to
run under CP/M-80.  The sources for V1.2 are on the
Royal Oak RCP/M, but there is no '.COM in the library so
I don't know if it would actually build. although the
documentation mentions CP/M-80.  CompuServe has XLPCPM.COM
in the AI Expert forum library which purports to be
XLISP V1.5, but it's really V1.0.  Prior to V1.2 the
functions still retain C names instead of LISP names, so
I would prefer V1.2.

From some j-random BBS I also got something circa 1985
that says it's "Tiny Lisp V1.0" that smells a lot like
V1.2, but there were no sources -- has anybody seen this ?

Ideally I would like to find XLISP V1.2 binaries for CP/M-80,
MS-DOS, and RT-11 (I'll build it for VAX/VMS myself).  It
looks to be one of the only truly portable language across
my platforms of interest.  Once I get the skinny on the
best XLISP that will fit under CP/M, then I'll set to
building it everywhere if I have to.

rcs

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Date: 30 Mar 90 02:39:11 GMT
From: van-bc!ubc-cs!alberta!ccu![e-mail]  (Brian Leclair)
Subject: Z80 compilers
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone have or know of a compiler that will compile source files
that end with a .Z80? I have not been able to find one that will work
Thanks

Brian Leclair - [e-mail]

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