Day 013 - 19 Jul 94 - Page 06

     
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         Q.   Do you still think it is fair to say that, as you said
     2        yesterday, I think your discussions on the ingredients
              brochures sort of came up out of the blue when Mr. Mandell
     3        rang you up for a chat to find out how you were getting
              on, how McDonald's were doing?
     4        A.  There were conversations which took place.  I do not
              recall, as you are suggesting, that it had anything to do
     5        with or was a consequence of this investigation.  My best
              recollection is that the discussions which led to it were
     6        of an informal nature which resulted in informal, very
              informal, voluntary agreement with them.
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         Q.   Right.  What was that voluntary agreement then?
     8        A.  I beg your pardon?
 
     9   Q.   What was that voluntary agreement?
              A.  That we were, the fact that we would produce -- I do
    10        not recall if it took written form, it may have -- but the
              fact is that we would do a joint press release and stress
         something to the effect that we had the same goals, that
              is, to bring greater nutritional information to the
    12        general public.  Is it possible that there was a letter
              from Mr. Mandell which initiated that phone call?  I guess
    13        that is possible; I do not remember that.
 
    14   Q.   Right.
              A.  I do have one further thing I would add to that.
    15        I would say that is it possible that we had discussions
              about what we might be doing in the future with
    16        Mr. Mandell at this time?  I guess that is possible,
              although it is difficult to recollect exactly the time
    17        period here.
 
    18   Q.   Can we go back to tab 11?  This is not in that bundle.
 
    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can we put that bundle away?
 
    20   MS. STEEL:   Yes.  We want volume VI now, pink volume VI.
              A.  OK.  I have pink volume VI.  Which tab did you say?
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         Q.   Tab 11.
    22        A.  Yes, one moment.
 
    23   Q.   Page 188.
              A.  I am there.
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         Q.   A letter from Dewey Ballantine Bushby Palmer and Wood
    25        dated 21st July 1986.  I think we were on this yesterday
              when we finished.  To go to paragraph 5, we did deal with 
    26        the previous page yesterday. 
              A.  Sorry, what page are you looking at? 
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         Q.   Point 5, it is on page 3.
    28        A.  190?
 
    29   Q.   Yes.
              A.  I am there.
    30
         Q.   The second sentence:  "Contrary to the impression conveyed