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     1        A.  Yes.
 
     2   Q.   Which is a paper by Laurence Kolonel and others headed:
              "Role of Diet In Cancer Incidence in Hawaii"?
     3        A.  Yes.
 
     4   Q.   It was published in May 1983 in the Cancer Research
              Supplement.  Is that an American publication?
     5        A.  It is, yes.
 
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You can tell the American medical
              publications because they always have a far greater number
     7        of people who are claiming some contribution to the paper
              than we do in this country.
     8        A.  Yes.
 
     9   Q.   It is probably prestige over there in getting your name on
              as many papers as possible.
    10        A.  It is also financially motivated.  If you are going to
              be a member of a university, whether you are an associate
         professor or a full professor will depend on the number of
              publications you have.  Also to some extent it will
    12        influence the ability to raise funds for a particular
              institution, so it does have some financial motivation as
    13        well.
 
    14   Q.   There is one other matter perhaps I can ask Mr. Rampton in
              case it becomes important.  I heard elsewhere that
    15        "authors", in inverted commas, can take it in turns to be
              first, second, third or whatever on the list.  I hope it
    16        is not offensive if I say there is a certain amount of
              mutual back scratching so far as that is concerned; is
    17        that true or not?
              A.  I would say that is particularly true in the United
    18        States where you have a group of workers and they, as you
              say, do take it in turns.  We have a slightly different
    19        attitude in this country in that the person who is
              directing the research or providing the environment for
    20        the research to be conducted, his or her name will go last
              in the list of authors.  The person who really does the
         hard work, their name will go first.
 
    22   MR. RAMPTON:  One notices, in fact, reading through your
              references, that there are a couple of gentlemen, one is
    23        called Mr. Wynder and one called Mr. Reddy; they seem to
              swap around, as his Lordship has indicated.  While I
    24        mention Mr. Wynder, is he a notable figure in the field of
              epidemiology and cancer?
    25        A.  Yes, I would say he is a notable epidemiologist.
  
    26   Q.   This study headed:  "Role of Diet in Cancer Incidence in 
              Hawaii" is an epidemiological study, we can all see, can 
    27        we not?
              A.  Yes.
    28
         Q.   It appears to be, am I right, a piece of work done in the
    29        course of a longer ongoing study of some kind in Hawaii?
              A.  That is correct, yes.
    30
         Q.   The principal part appears to be a cohort study; one sees