Day 074 - 16 Jan 95 - Page 05
1 MR. RAMPTON: There is a magic screen on which appear the words
2 that you speak as you speak them, so it is necessary to go
3 a little slowly so that the words can be recorded.
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5 In those shelves behind you, you will find a yellow file, a
6 blue file with a yellow spine on it, the large Roman III on
7 it Recycling and Waste. I think at tab 5 -----
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9 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is tab 7 if it is Mr. Stump. 7
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11 MR. RAMPTON: I am grateful to your Lordship. (To the witness):
12 At tab 7 you will find a statement by Stacey Stump. You
13 should find behind that a copy of the observation check
14 list?
15 A. Yes, it is at the No. 14, sir.
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17 Q. No. 14, says: "Trash walk to be carried out at least every
18 30 minutes following a trash walk map".
19 A. Yes, sir.
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21 Q. You have been working for McDonald's as a licensee and
22 manager in two different locations and, I think you said,
23 as assistant or trainee manager before that -- was it
24 Oxford Street?
25 A. Yes, sir, and otherwise I have worked in Golders Green,
26 in Midlands.
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28 Q. How far back in time, leaving the time, perhaps starting in
29 1978 when you were a crew member, you see that observation
30 check list and that is dated October 1993, as far as you
31 can remember (and you do not have to be confident of this
32 but tell us as far as you can remember), how long has that
33 provision about "a trash walk to be carried out at least
34 every 30 minutes following a trash walk map" been in
35 existence?
36 A. I think, as far as I remember, when I joined Golders
37 Green in 1978, at that time we used to carry out trash
38 walks exactly the same way we used to, I remember, wash the
39 pavement outside, scrub, that used to be the first
40 activity. And I know Paul Preston, he used to come in and
41 he used to be very happy if he sees, so that was always
42 religiously, that has been followed through up till today.
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44 Q. Was there an observation check list like that when you were
45 manager of Kensington High Street?
46 A. Yes, sir.
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48 Q. Were the trash walks carried out in accordance with that
49 provision?
50 A. Yes, sir. We take a great care when we -- because we
51 know that there is a certain percentage of people who
52 take-away, so I think it is in McDonald's, the way it
53 educates us from day 1, the environment, and especially in
54 the community, how to live in the community; it has been
55 taught very religiously and that is the top priority.
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57 Q. Was it part of your training?
58 A. Yes, sir, it is. To me, it is as important as taking
59 an oath on Koran.
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