Day 075 - 17 Jan 95 - Page 26


     
     1        A.  Yes.
     2
     3   Q.   Yes?
     4        A.  Yes.
     5
     6   Q.   Going back to this leaflet, two questions:  The Street
     7        Protection (sic) Notices, how far do they extend from -----
     8        A.  You mean the Street Litter Control Notices?
     9
    10   Q.   Sorry, whatever they are called, how far do they extend?
    11        A.  The Act indicates that the Local Authority can indicate
    12        the area over which it thinks it is reasonable, and it
    13        talks about a reasonable distance either side.  In
    14        practice, that is something like the order of 50 feet
    15        either side of the frontage of a shop.
    16
    17   Q.   You are not aware of local authorities saying that it
    18        should be further than that?
    19        A.  No, I am not and I think that it would then be a great
    20        debate about what was reasonable, but that is the general
    21        figure that people -- that has been used by local
    22        authorities.
    23
    24   Q.   Can I ask about the cleanliness standards table?
    25        A.  Yes.
    26
    27   Q.   Why is it that, for example, in town centres it is felt
    28        that if they get to grade (D) they should be cleaned up
    29        within one hour; whereas with, say, residential areas there
    30        is, you know, a longer period of time?
    31        A.  It is all a function of the density of the people using
    32        the space.  I mean, that is really the rationale behind it;
    33        that if you have a much larger number of people moving
    34        about per square yard or per square hectare, or whatever,
    35        then the problem is likely to be greater and, therefore,
    36        the period of time during which environment/index.html">litter is deposited will be
    37        shorter, therefore, the period during which it is picked up
    38        has to be shorter.
    39
    40   Q.   So, although a low density residential area, for example,
    41        might look as bad as a town centre street, the residents
    42        would have to put up with that for longer?
    43        A.  Not necessarily.  They can make representations to
    44        their Local Authority.  The Local Authority can zone in
    45        whatever way it wishes to.  If it thinks that a particular
    46        area, though it is not a town centre or not within the
    47        broad outlines that are contained in this leaflet (which is
    48        meant simply as a guide), if it comes to the conclusion
    49        that an area is particularly prone to littering and,
    50        therefore, needs to zone it differently, then it is at 
    51        liberty to do so and, according to the zoning, the 
    52        frequency of cleanliness will change.  The local residents 
    53        are perfectly at liberty to make representations to the
    54        Local Authority to change the zoning which they are
    55        supposed -- the Local Authority is supposed to publish on a
    56        map to accommodate the problem.  So, they do not have to
    57        put up with it, to answer your question directly.
    58
    59   Q.   I was just curious as to why they were divided into those
    60        categories and given those lengths of time?

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