Day 080 - 30 Jan 95 - Page 07

     
     1        is all -- the same things are covered on it.
     2
     3   Q.   So you have two forms which cover the same things?
     4        A.  No, I mean, your question is a matter of whether ---
     5
     6   Q.   I am just asking ---
     7        A.  I  -----
     8
     9   Q.   -- I am trying to understand.
    10        A.  It does not mean to me anything.  Just one moment, I am
    11        looking for a particular point.  Just one moment.  No, but
    12        everything is covered on both forms.  It is just that there
    13        are two forms, I mean, two different layouts -- that is
    14        all.
    15
    16   Q.   Actually, there is something that is a slightly different,
    17        I think, which is on page I you have the meat type which I
    18        do not think is on the page before.  On page I, could you
    19        just briefly explain what the different types of cow are,
    20        the blue, the boner, the steaker and the butcher?
         A.  I thought we had already done that.
    22
    23   Q.   I do not remember any reference.
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can you just do it quickly and simply?
    26        A.  A heifer is a virgin cow.
    27
    28   Q.   We know what a steer and a heifer are, but what is blue,
    29        boner, steaker and butcher?
    30        A.  A butcher cow is a white cow, a cow which the fat is
    31        white and firm up to about three years old.  It is a young
    32        cow that has come from -- culled from the dairy industry.
    33        A steaker is just one, a cow which is probably heavier,
    34        probably heavier, and a boner and a blue cow is what
    35        I referred to previously as a wet cow.  In other words, it
    36        is a cow that we would not have.
    37
    38   MS. STEEL:   So if those boxes get ticked then you say that they
    39        would be rejected?
    40        A.  No, a butcher cow is fine and a steaker cow is -----
    41
    42   Q.   No, the blue and the boner?
    43        A.  Yes.
    44
    45   Q.   How do you tell whether the consignments, these
    46        consignments, are rejected or not on the form?
    47        A.  Well, I would have thought it would be written over the
    48        form "rejected".
    49
    50   Q.   What, in large writing or something? 
    51        A.  I do not know whether it would be in large writing; it 
    52        would also depend on what it was rejected for. 
    53
    54   Q.   It would definitely be on there, would it?
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  There are three places for comments on the
    57        form, I see.
    58
    59   MS. STEEL:   Say, for example, page P then, it has got "accept",
    60        "reject" at the bottom.  Do we assume this one was