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     1        A.  Yes, it is.
     2
     3   Q.   How long has your family been in pigs, if I can call it
     4        that?
     5        A.  If you are talking about the Bowes' family, I can
     6        actually remember very clearly working with my grandmother
     7        as a child looking after her pigs, and also reference was
     8        made to my grandfather who is affectionately known as
     9        "Dr. Banham", as an expert pig keeper.
    10
    11   Q.   Where, generally speaking, or perhaps I can ask it this
    12        way, does your company own enough land of its own to keep
    13        100,000 pigs?
    14        A.  No, we do not.  What we have developed with East
    15        Anglian farmers is a system whereupon we will supply the
    16        expertise for those pigs that we cannot produce ourselves,
    17        and using their farms and their own expertise in labour,
    18        and they supply the water and the straw and we will supply
    19        the food and, again as I have said, the veterinary
    20        expertise and the management expertise for those pigs on
    21        the individual farms, and there is something like, we will
    22        be involved with 70 other farmers doing this -- a small
    23        co-operative, if you wish.
    24
    25   Q.   How closely are you able to monitor or keep an eye on the
    26        activities of that small co-operative, as you would call
    27        it?
    28        A.  We have a pig management team that is headed by Jim
    29        Berlin.  It is based at the Head Offices.  They are in
    30        daily contact with those pig farmers on the question of
    31        feed supplies etc., and also those farmers have to report
    32        to us daily on the condition of pigs if they have a
    33        problem.
    34
    35   Q.   How often does your team make a visit to one of these
    36        farms?
    37        A.  If all is going well on the farm they will not visit.
    38        If there is a problem they will, but it is likewise done in
    39        a random fashion as well because one has to check also, but
    40        there is a problem in the organisation as such because we
    41        have to be aware of the prevention of disease being spread
    42        from one unit to another if it does occur.  So, we have to
    43        be very careful in our management of that.
    44
    45   Q.   Do the East Anglian farmers who assist you or co-operate
    46        with you in this way have outdoor pigs as well as indoor
    47        pigs?
    48        A.  Yes.
    49
    50   Q.   It is probably best if you unclip the rings on that file 
    51        and take the brochure out because it is easier to look at. 
    52        First of all, if you look at the cover, front and back, it 
    53        is all one photograph, is it not?
    54        A.  That is correct.
    55
    56   Q.   What do we see represented in that photograph, what pigs
    57        are those?
    58        A.  These are sows and bores or gilts and this is a
    59        breeding herd, if you wish, where the bores are there to
    60        service the gilts.

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