Day 128 - 24 May 95 - Page 07


     
     1        were not Head of Food Safety, was there someone who was, or
     2        had there been someone who was, whatever their title, who
     3        exercised that function?
     4        A.  No, it was just an integral part of QA.  There was no
     5        particular person.
     6
     7   MS. STEEL:   Your post was created in response to the Food
     8        Safety Act, or whatever it was called?
     9        A.  My role was created by the request of the three
    10        regional managers to help develop an Operation's response
    11        to the Food Safety Act, the Control of Substances Hazardous
    12        to Health Regulations and the Electricity at Work
    13        Regulations and, also, as I explained, to gain some
    14        qualifications and bring a safety professional
    15        qualification to McDonald's.
    16
    17   Q.   Burns are one of the more common accidents at McDonald's,
    18        are they not?
    19        A.  They are one of the most, more common outcomes of
    20        accidents, yes.
    21
    22   Q.   If you turn to pink volume XII, tab 57M, on the sheet 4,
    23        where would burns come in in that chart?
    24        A.  Well, the chart shows types of accidents.  As I have
    25        just said, burns are an outcome to an accident, so you
    26        would not expect to see them on there. They would -- if,
    27        for example, if we did a breakdown  of the type of injuries
    28        we get in our restaurants, they would occur on that.  But
    29        the sort of thing that is going to cause burns is if you
    30        strike against some hot equipment, and also the manual
    31        handling category, and the harmful substance category also
    32        includes shortening.  But having thought overnight on the
    33        manual handling  and why they are so different between 1991
    34        and 1993, I have remembered back, and one of the main
    35        differences there was that in 1992 we had a programme of
    36        introducing a new type of grill that became available to us
    37        that was not available, before called a clamshell grill.
    38        The advantage of that was it had a lid on it, and that
    39        meant that should somebody slip or lose their balance and
    40        put their hand on the grill, they now put it on the lid of
    41        grill, as opposed to the grill surface itself.
    42
    43   Q.   So the rate of burns went down after that?
    44        A.  So the burns in that manual handling category came
    45        down, but that is a good example of something that just was
    46        not available to us before 1992.  It was something new
    47        that, yes, had been developed from a cooking standpoint,
    48        but also had a safety spinoff as well.
    49
    50   Q.   An electric shock would be the outcome of an accident, 
    51        would it not? 
    52        A.  Yes, it would, but because this is based on RIDDOR 
    53        categories, one of the RIDDOR categories is an electric
    54        shock.  Now, the shock in terms of the tingle would be an
    55        overcome, but the outcome of an electric shock could also
    56        be an electric burn or ------
    57
    58   Q.   Why do you not keep any statistics on burns?
    59        A.  The database we have which takes the information off
    60        the F2508, the reporting form, does indicate whether they

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