Day 152 - 11 Jul 95 - Page 13
1 A. Yes, sir, it was.
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3 MR. MORRIS: I am not going to pursue that line of question any
4 more.
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6 MS. STEEL: I wanted to say something. When I was putting it to
7 the witness earlier, I actually said it would leave around
8 210 working hours which, shared out between part-time
9 employees, they would be lucky if they got eight hours each
10 week. I have two sets of figures on my page. I read from
11 the wrong set. It would be -----
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have had some further information about
14 part-timers anyway. So if you want to start afresh on it
15 and make your point, do so.
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17 MS. STEEL: I was just going to say, I should have said three
18 hours each per week on the last occasion. If we take off
19 five full-time employees from the 100 and eight part-time,
20 that would cover the people that you listed - one full-time
21 Admin and four full-time Floor Managers and then the other
22 eight were part-time, the cleaners, the security, the
23 maintenance man ---
24 A. Yes. OK.
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26 Q. -- floor managers, which leaves 23 full-time crew per week?
27 A. No. In terms of going back to this, the 14 and the 12
28 is 28. There would be a minimum. Again, going back on
29 this, if I needed 14 for the Friday lunch-time, 12 to 2.00,
30 and 12 for the night shift -- and I am assuming obviously
31 that the two days off are going to be Saturday, Sunday --
32 I would need 28 people.
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34 Q. 26?
35 A. Sorry, 26, 26 people to staff that. So I would be
36 looking for a minimum of 26 full-time crew. If I was
37 sitting down the first time with a Manager -----
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It may be obvious but why full-time crew?
40 A. Because in terms of people's individual availabilities
41 obviously can be varied, but in terms of sitting down with
42 a Manager and planning our staffing requirements ---
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44 Q. Yes.
45 A. -- first of all, to get it fairly straightforward so
46 that the Manager can understand. One of the things I will
47 assume is say Monday to Friday; let us just assume Monday
48 to Friday we only have full-timers. I know we are going to
49 have part-timers who can work evenings and some full-timers
50 who can work weekends. That tends to get complicated.
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52 But, to start off with, to give them a basic idea of what
53 they should be looking at, let us say Monday to Friday,
54 those five days a week, 14 at lunch, 12 in the evening; so
55 that would be 26 people on a full-time basis. Then I would
56 do the same thing with the weekend, and in this case 25, 12
57 and 15 was my sort of 52. So, if we were looking at these
58 staffing levels, 26 and 52 would be our starting point.
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60 Obviously, then, I would sit down with the Manager and see
