Day 152 - 11 Jul 95 - Page 14


     
     1        where we were in terms of the payroll.  So if he had, for
     2        example, 24, that suggests two more full-timers are
     3        required and if he had 50, perhaps two more part-timers.
     4        But, of course, with the sort of vagaries of people's own
     5        availability ----
     6
     7   Q.   I am sure all this is entirely obvious to you, but I
     8        just do not follow the logic of it at all.  If it is
     9        important, then perhaps you would explain it, whether it is
    10        by way of re-examination or now.  I do not see why, for a
    11        start, how you go from needing a maximum of 12 at any one
    12        time, Monday to Thursday, 14 at any one time on Friday, 25
    13        at any one time on Saturday and 15 at any one time on
    14        Sunday.
    15        A.  Right.
    16
    17   Q.   You go to a certain minimum of full-time workers?
    18        A.  Right.  The difference is on the 12 and the 14 and the
    19        25 that you have just mentioned is I would require, let us
    20        say, 12 people to carry out the business of a Monday to
    21        Thursday lunch-time.
    22
    23   Q.   Yes, but they do not have to be full-timers?
    24        A.  Not necessarily so.  That is right, sir.  On a Friday
    25        it is busier than a week day, Monday to Thursday, and it is
    26        my experience perhaps an additional two people depending
    27        upon the business.
    28
    29   Q.   Yes, you have explained 14 but they do not have to be
    30        full-time either?
    31        A.  Absolutely not.
    32
    33   Q.   In fact, five days a week you told me you had people
    34        working 10.00 to 2.00 only ---
    35        A.  Absolutely, sir.  So what I would then, just to finish
    36        the clarification  ------
    37
    38   Q.   -- they would get no work at all if they were all
    39        full-timers?
    40        A.  That is in terms of when I said taking it to first base
    41        and looking at our requirements, I would then say in a very
    42        simplistic way the full-timers only do Monday to Friday,
    43        that part-timers only do a Saturday and Sunday.  That gives
    44        me a 26 and 50 or 60, depending on how the numbers vary on
    45        the weekend.  I would then match that with what the
    46        restaurant actually had in terms of its availability,
    47        because unless I was going into a brand new restaurant
    48        I would obviously be looking at my hiring requirements from
    49        an ongoing situation with people already on the payroll.
    50 
    51   Q.   I understand that, but how do you go from those figures to 
    52        saying:  "We must have at least so many full-timers on the 
    53        payroll"?
    54        A.  I would then say -- let us say again, for example, that
    55        this Monday to Friday situation has got here 26, but now
    56        for the summer period or for Christmas, especially in
    57        Leicester, I would be looking for maybe 20 Monday to
    58        Thursday, Monday to Friday staffing that 12.00 till 2.00
    59        period.  The decision I then make with the Manager or the
    60        Supervisor is to say:  "How do I find those additional

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