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     1        I cannot answer, but from my notes made at that time, you
     2        were there.
     3
     4   Q.   Well, I put to it you again that you just used to put down
     5        any old thing.  It did not really matter what you wrote as
     6        long as you kept filling out these reports and mentioning
     7        McDonald's every now and then, and people making admissions
     8        every now and then, you would keep getting your paycheck
     9        and that was all you were worried about?
    10        A.   I completely disagree with that.
    11
    12   Q.   Mr. Bishop does not have me down as being at this meeting.
    13        Can you explain what other possible reason there might be
    14        for you having me down at this meeting other than that you
    15        made your notes up?
    16        A.   No, I cannot.  If I have got you down as there, then I
    17        have you down as there.  Those are the notes that I made at
    18        that time.
    19
    20   Q.   There was not another Helen, was there?
         A.  Not that I recall.
    22
    23   Q.   If we go on to 28th June 1990.
    24
    25   MR. RAMPTON:  153, my Lord.
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.
    28
    29   MS. STEEL:  This is a meeting at Endsleigh Street.  You went to
    30        Caledonian Road first but there was no one there so you
    31        went to Endsleigh Street. "The meeting was on conservation,
    32        radical ecology.  Very, very boring.  Left about 9.30ish.
    33        People present:  Jonathan, Jane, Helen, Paul.  Paul turned
    34        up later, sorry.  5 others."   Is that supposed to be about
    35        5 others?
    36        A.  I imagine so, yes.
    37
    38   Q.   Who are totally irrelevant.  And you have not got a note of
    39        anything about McDonald's at that meeting?
    40        A.   Not from my notes, no.
    41
    42   MR. MORRIS:  Can you just look at the -- sorry, if you hold on a
    43        second.  If you just look at -- well, no, we will leave it
    44        there.  Carry on.
    45
    46   MS. STEEL:  If you look at the notes for 26th July, 1990.
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just pause one moment.
    49        A.   It is page 155, sir.
    50
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.
    52
    53   MS. STEEL:  You have got them, yes?
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:  This is a meeting at 5 Caledonian Road. "Jonathan J,
    58        new bloke and me.  Lots of letters to be answered.  A lot
    59        about McDonald's IMF etc.  Meeting to go on very late for
    60        planning of LGP fair.  Letters answered until 9.40 until