Day 268 - 24 Jun 96 - Page 05

     
     1        Paul and Helen turned up.  Then everyone went to the pub.
     2        I left 9.45."   So between 7 and 9.40 pm you were answering
     3        letters with everybody else?
     4        A.   Probably yes.
     5
     6   Q.   Some of which were about McDonald's and so you would have
     7        been sending out antiMcDonald's leaflets?
     8        A.   I cannot remember exactly, but it is a likelihood.
     9
    10   Q.   Right.  Do you remember - well, you cannot remember
    11        exactly.  And within five minutes of myself and Paul
    12        turning up, everybody went to the pub?
    13        A.   That is what my notes say, yes.
    14
    15   Q.   Right.  There was not -- there did not -- when we turned up
    16        there did not follow a long discussion about the London
    17        Greenpeace fair?
    18        A.   Not that I have made notes of, no.
    19
    20   Q.   The meeting of 9th August.
    21
    22   MR. RAMPTON:  169, my Lord.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.
    25
    26   MS. STEEL:  Now, you said in your last statement about this
    27        meeting, it is in paragraph -- well, it is on page 5,
    28        paragraph (iv).
    29        A.   Sorry, what statement page?
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   5C in section 5 on the last page, paragraph
    32        (iv).
    33        A.  Thank you.
    34
    35   MS. STEEL:  This is the meeting at 5 Caledonian Road. "Jane
    36        Charlotte, Jonathan, old bloke who looked like Old Bill, an
    37        anarchist from York.  Andrew turned up later."   When you
    38        were used the phrase "Old Bill" you are talking about a
    39        Policeman?
    40        A.   Yes.
    41
    42   Q.   So you thought he was either looking or acting suspicious
    43        in terms of what the group was sort of -- in terms of the
    44        reason why he might be at the group?
    45        A.   No.  He stood out as, in my eyes, somebody that looked
    46        like an exPolice Officer.
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  I think what you are being asked was
    49        did he look like an exPolice Officer period or he looked
    50        like someone who might not be a bona fide member of the
    51        group but there for investigation purposes?
    52        A.   I cannot - what physically he looked like on the day I
    53        really cannot recall, but in my eyes he looked like an
    54        exPolice Officer.  He was casually dressed or he would have
    55        been casually dressed.  In my eyes that is what he looked
    56        like.  What other inferences can be drawn, I cannot
    57        comment.
    58
    59   MS. STEEL:  You have got "organisation of the McDonald's fair
    60        very much in progress."   Why did you put the McDonald's