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     1        perfectly willing to accept that these notes were honestly
     2        made at the time by Mrs. Tiller, and that, so far as one
     3        can tell at this distance of time, they are accurate.  I
     4        simply do not understand the point of reading out bits of
     5        the note without some question following from that.
     6
     7   MS. STEEL:  We are just noting certain points.  That is the
     8        purpose of it.
     9
    10   MR. RAMPTON:  That is making a speech, which is not the right
    11        thing to do.
    12
    13   MS. STEEL:  No, it is drawing it out in evidence.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  All you need do is draw the -- is your
    16        concern that you want some parts in but not the whole?
    17
    18   MS. STEEL:  It is just most of it is, by and large, pretty
    19        irrelevant.
    20
    MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Maybe, but that is one thing.  Perhaps you
    22        could just ask, since Mrs. Tiller has now read the reports
    23        and notes, whether they are accurate to the best of her
    24        recollection now, and then you can draw my attention in due
    25        course to the parts which you think help your case in some
    26        way or other.
    27
    28   MS. STEEL:  It is up to us whether or not we want to aver the
    29        whole note.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is; that is why I asked:  Is it that you
    32        do not want them all in, you just want certain bits in?
    33
    34   MS. STEEL:  It is just that the way we decided to do it was to
    35        go through picking out specific bits which we thought were
    36        worth drawing to the attention of the court rather than
    37        going through, you know, everything.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, but the point is it will take a certain
    40        amount of time to pick bits out.  If you are concerned that
         only some parts go in because you positively do not want
    42        the other parts in evidence, I understand that.  But if you
    43        have really got no objection to them all being in, and
    44        merely want to make a comment on the basis of some parts in
    45        due course, you can just ask one question:  Are all the
    46        notes and reports which relate to your investigations
    47        accurate to the best of your recollection?  Then, in due
    48        course, you can draw my attention to the parts which you
    49        think help you.
    50 
    51   MS. STEEL:  I think if Mr. Rampton wants all the notes averred, 
    52        then he can ask the witness that. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You obviously do not want them all to go in,
    55        so just -----
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:  There is not anything that especially bothers me,
    58        but it just means that we then have to go through some
    59        points which are not quite exactly how things would have
    60        been said and so on.  That is all.  It actually may take