Day 270 - 28 Jun 96 - Page 14

     
     1        bundle.  This was a meeting at 5 Caledonian Road and
     2        Mr. Morris appears to be arriving about the same time as
     3        you?
     4        A.  Yes.
     5
     6   Q.   The door was opened by Jane.  Paul was present, Charlie and
     7        someone called Hazel.
     8
     9   MR. MORRIS:  Sorry, I was just trying to come in at the very end
    10        rather than butt in.  There was just one question I was
    11        wanting to ask you about that previous report you did.  On
    12        the third page:
    13
    14        "It was read out by Helen about the international mailing.
    15        It was decided not to undertake this due to costs."
    16
    17        Do you have any impression about the funds of the group at
    18        all in general while you were there?
    19        A.  Well, my general impression was that they did not have
    20        very much money.  In fact, the table was falling down
         and  --
    22
    23   Q.   The table was falling down?
    24        A.  The table fell to pieces.  The premises were not -- you
    25        know, they were very meager.  Nobody there seemed to be
    26        particularly well off.  My impression was that there was
    27        not a lot of money in the group.
    28
    29   Q.   These leaflets which you took, that are attached to your
    30        report on that day, 25th July I think it was, there is no
    31        McDonald's leaflets in them, in that pile.  Do you have any
    32        comment about that?
    33        A.  Only that if there had been McDonald's leaflets there I
    34        would certainly have picked one up and I would have
    35        mentioned it in my report and enclosed it.
    36
    37   MS. STEEL:  Sorry, going back to 19th July, you said about this
    38        that the agenda consisted of intros, incoming mail,
    39        reports, borders, fairs and coming events.  If McDonald's
    40        had been an item on the agenda, would you have made a note
         of it?
    42        A.  Yes.
    43
    44   MR. MORRIS:  This was a meeting which I attended and I have
    45        looked through it to see where I am mentioned.  You have
    46        said in your statement that you were looking for anything
    47        about McDonald's and particularly looking out for certain
    48        people.  What would you have recorded, what would have been
    49        your job, say, at this meeting with me present?  Regarding
    50        me, this means. 
    51        A.  Well, to record anything that you -- well, you were one 
    52        of the people that I was given to believe was one of the 
    53        main members of the group and I was to look out for you,
    54        and I would have just reported anything that you said and
    55        specifically in relation to McDonald's or anything you were
    56        involved in in relation to McDonald's.
    57
    58   Q.   Right.  Did you have any idea about my -- you said you were
    59        told that I was one of the main members of the    group --
    60        did you get any details about my involvement with the group