Day 272 - 02 Jul 96 - Page 04


     
     1        brought the leaflets from the office, 5 Caledonian Road,
     2        took them up to McDonald's headquarters.  I also arranged
     3        the street theatre on the day.  I got hold of the pantomime
     4        cow costume.
     5
     6   Q.   Right.  Which leaflets did you bring from the office?
     7        A.   The leaflets that I brought were the A5 London
     8        Greenpeace leaflets.  I did not bring any fact sheets with
     9        me because it was not the custom of the group at that time
    10        to take McDonald's fact sheets on to demonstrations to hand
    11        out in bulk.  In fact, we had not done it since 1987.
    12
    13   Q.   So it had happened in the past then?
    14        A.   It happened, to the best of my knowledge, on two
    15        occasions.
    16
    17   Q.   And when were they?
    18        A.   They were October 1986, World Day of Action Against
    19        McDonald's, October 16th.  And in January 1987 we decided
    20        to do some demonstrations outside McDonald's branches in
    21        South London and they were taken then.  Now, after that
    22        time, as a result of handing them out in the street, there
    23        were very knew left and we decided to reprint.  They were
    24        costly to reprint, they were a big leaflet, and we then
    25        decided, a decision was made that we would not hand them
    26        out any more in the street.
    27
    28        Soon after that, in the spring of 1987, I can remember
    29        producing an A5 leaflet.  I actually wrote the A5 leaflet.
    30        I did it firstly for Hackney and Islington Animal Rights.
    31        I think the group was called Islington Animal Rights then.
    32        I did it for that group.  And then shortly afterwards that
    33        was used by London Greenpeace, the A5 leaflet, and
    34        thereafter that was always used on street demonstrations.
    35
    36   Q.   Okay.  Mr. Nicholson says that he thinks that he saw you
    37        with a stack of the anti-McDonald's fact sheets that we are
    38        being sued over under your arm on this demonstration though
    39        he does not remember whether or not -- well, he did not see
    40        you handing any out, and he also says that he saw me with a
    41        whole pile of anti-McDonald's fact sheets on this
    42        demonstration, distributing them.  Do you have any comment
    43        about that?
    44        A.   Yes.  As I said earlier, to the best of my knowledge
    45        there were no anti-McDonald's fact sheets there.  I
    46        certainly did not take any and I do not believe that anyone
    47        who was involved in the group would have taken any with
    48        them.  That does not mean that someone else might not have
    49        brought some with them, because the sort of group London
    50        Greenpeace was, people did used to bring other leaflets
    51        than the ones we brought ourselves to demonstrations.
    52
    53        Now, I may have handed out some leaflets that day.  I spent
    54        a lot of the time in the cow costume.  I was part of that.
    55        I may have handed out some leaflets myself.  If I had done,
    56        they would have been the A5 leaflets because that is the
    57        one I took.  You, Helen, I can only remember you on that
    58        day holding that Greenpeace banner.  I do not remember you
    59        handing out any leaflets at all on that day.  And also, as
    60        I remember it, there was also the Veggies version as well

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