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     2   Q.  "-- only came to occasional meetings."  Sorry - "and there
     3        were some".  The number of people at meetings fluctuated
     4        wildly and there were some who were only loosely involved
     5        in the group and only came to occasional meetings.  Dave
     6        did not come to many meetings at this time because he was
     7        looking after his son who had been injured in an
     8        accident."
     9        A.   That was true.  I mean, Dave rarely came to any
    10        meetings after August '89, and even before August '89 his
    11        involvement at meetings was tailing off throughout 1987-88,
    12        I would say.
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    14   Q.   "The picket of McDonald's on 2nd August 1990 referred to by
    15        Witness D was not organised by London Greenpeace."
    16
    17        If I can just explain, when we asked our witnesses to make
    18        their statements we gave them the first statements of the
    19        infiltrators and at that time their names were not
    20        identified, they were just known as A, B, C and D, so that
    21        is why it refers to Witness D.
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    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    24
    25   MS. STEEL:  I think that is Brian Bishop.  I am pretty sure that
    26        Witness D is Brian Bishop.
    27
    28        "It was organised by Hackney and Islington Animal Rights
    29        but was announced in the "coming events" section of the
    30        meeting where other groups' activities were publicised as
    31        well as London Greenpeace's.  It was not mentioned simply
    32        because it was an anti-McDonald's event.  I do not remember
    33        information being passed by telephone to anybody else.
    34        London Greenpeace did not organise McDonald's pickets
    35        except on the 16th of October."
    36        A.   Yes, that is a particularly important thing.  I mean,
    37        London Greenpeace was not in the habit of regularly
    38        organising anti-McDonald's demonstrations, certainly not
    39        after 1987, but Hackney and Islington Animal Rights and
    40        other local, particularly local animal rights groups, local
    41        green groups, did used to organise regular pickets.
    42
    43        And I was member of Hackney & Islington Animal Rights, so
    44        was Jane Lapport, one or two other people as well in London
    45        Greenpeace, and we would bring up these events at the
    46        London Greenpeace meeting, because they were Hackney and
    47        Islington events, not just because they were
    48        anti-McDonald's events.
    49
    50   Q.   Did you bring up other Hackney and Islington events at the
    51        meetings?
    52        A.   Other Hackney and Islington events, for instance
    53        pickets of fayre shops, video section laboratories,
    54        whatever, yes, which is whatever we were doing at the
    55        time.  We had a range of activities and this included
    56        occasional demonstrations outside McDonald's.  They would
    57        all have been mentioned.
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    59   Q.  "Dave, Helen and myself did not 'control' the meetings, all
    60        of which were open and conducted democratically with

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