Day 272 - 02 Jul 96 - Page 13
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2 "Paul attended again although he left after using the
3 phone. Paul is writing preparing a new anti-Mc leaflet
4 which shall be updated and is also working on a
5 book/booklet which should be ready this year or early
6 1991. Paul seems to be an author of all anti-Mc leaflets
7 or may be 'the' unquote author."
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9 Do you have any comment about that?
10 A. Well, it is, you know, it is just completely untrue.
11 I mean, it is his opinion, is it not? I mean, I was not
12 the author of all anti-McDonald's leaflets at all, you
13 know. I did not write the fact sheet. I mean, you know,
14 and I do not, you know -- perhaps he has got an idea of me
15 because I am knowledgeable about McDonald's I must have
16 written the thing, you know.
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18 Q. Have you ever said that you wrote all the anti-McDonald's
19 leaflets?
20 A. No, no, I am sure I would not have said that at the
21 time because it was untrue. I did not used to say things
22 that were untrue or brag about them, what I have done.
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24 Q. Then it goes on:
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26 "A girl by the name of Ellen/Helen also arrived. She
27 seemed to take control. She also wrote the minutes and the
28 agenda. She ran the meeting. She seemed to know a lot."
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30 Then it actually jumps two pages:
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32 "About the group and most campaigns. She has a lot of
33 knowledge on all anti-McDonald's activities past and
34 present. She admitted to helping with all anti-Mc
35 information leaflets and their distribution."
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37 Have you ever heard me say anything like that?
38 A. No. I mean, if I had been there and I heard you say
39 that, I would have said something. I would have been very
40 surprised because, you know, it is simply not true. I
41 mean, you Helen, did not start coming to London Greenpeace
42 regularly until 1988. That was nearly two years after the
43 fact sheet was published, so there is no way, you know,
44 that you would have said that. No, he has made that up.
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46 Q. So you would be surprised if I had said that?
47 A. Oh yes, yes, definitely, definitely. And, I mean,
48 also he is saying you controlled the meeting. I think that
49 is untrue as well. The meetings were not controlled.
50 Simply an agenda was passed round. Whoever was there could
51 write down what they wanted to on the agenda and someone
52 took minutes. The minute-taker, whoever they were, varied
53 from week to week depending on who was at the meeting.
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55 Q. Okay. If we go on to 8th February?
56 A. 8th February, did you say?
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58 Q. Yes, it starts on page 70 of the notes, but actually I want
59 to refer to page 72 of the notes.
60 A. Yes.
