Day 277 - 10 Jul 96 - Page 09

     
     1   Q.   Right.  If you go to page 97 in the book?
     2        A.  Yes.
     3
     4   Q.   There is a mention of McDonald's in this book.  Do you
     5        recall that this book mentioned McDonald's?
     6        A.  Yes.
     7
     8   Q.   Was this seen -- I will read out the reference.  It says at
     9        the bottom of page 97: "While companies like Burger King
    10        and Jack in the Box admit to using imported beef other
    11        chains sensitive to the growing anger about deforestation
    12        have sought to  disassociate themselves from the ranches,
    13        issuing public statements stressing their lack of
    14        involvement with the trade.  Some of these to not stand up
    15        to very close examination.  McDonald's, by far the largest
    16        food chain"--
    17        A.  Fast food chain.
    18
    19   Q.   "...  fast food chain" et cetera, "categorically denies
    20        that it uses beef from outside the USA.  On the spot
         investigations in Central America showed that beef from
    22        Guatemala and Costa Rica was sold to McDonald's.  The
    23        discrepancy is possible because the Meat Importers Council
    24        of America categorises any meat imported to the USA as
    25         "domestic beef" so that McDonald's can legally say that
    26        they "obtain their meat within the United States" whereas
    27        it was actually raised in the ashes of tropical rain
    28        forests."
    29        A.  Yes.
    30
    31   Q.   Do you recall that section?
    32        A.  Yes.  I am pretty sure that this book was referred to
    33        in some reference document about sources of information.
    34
    35   Q.   That London Greenpeace produced?
    36        A.  That was produced by somebody in London Greenpeace.
    37
    38   Q.   Or somebody, yes.  Just a related question to that, if I
    39        can just say, that book, in the inside of the cover it says
    40        "First published 1985"?
         A.  Yes.
    42
    43   Q.   Regarding myself, if I cast my mind back to the time when
    44        you first became involved with the group you said that I
    45        was not coming to many meetings at that time, but do you
    46        recall whether I was the kind of person who would be aware
    47        of underlying information and discussion about the kind of
    48        information in the leaflet that London Greenpeace was
    49        putting out?  Would I be aware of books on shelves?
    50        A.  I was aware that you had been involved in political
    51        activity for a considerable number of years, that you
    52        obviously, whenever I spoke to you it was apparent that you
    53        had read quite, you know, a wide variety of books about
    54        ecology, working practices, other political books and
    55        things like that.  I mean, I cannot recall any specific
    56        books that you have talked to me about having read but I do
    57        remember that, you know, we have talked on occasions in the
    58        past about various political books and various ecological
    59        books, and so on.
    60