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1 something to measure it by and you may as well measure it
2 by the various recommendations. Indeed, did not
3 Professor Wheelock accept that the food was high in fat and
4 saturated fat?
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6 MR. RAMPTON: Some of it is and some of it is not. The meal
7 I have picked might be thought moderately high in fat as a
8 meal in itself, so, yes. But, really, what I have done is,
9 I have skirted round that; not because I am frightened but
10 because I do see it as a sterile inquiry because it really
11 leads nowhere unless one goes on to consider how it fits
12 into the day's intake and the day's energy requirements and
13 then further, which is the next necessary step, how that
14 fits into the person's diet.
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16 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The way I have approached it is, I feel
17 I cannot flinch from the first question -- query what the
18 answer to it is -- as well as the food itself, that is the
19 individual items of food, or the meal if one looks at it
20 that way, it is high in or low in, and at the moment the
21 one shifts away from that we are going to the second
22 question.
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24 MR. RAMPTON: It is -----
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is no damage to you, because I have to
27 deal with the second question at some stage.
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29 MR. RAMPTON: I have skirted round it, not because I am afraid
30 of it -- not in the least -- but simply because I do not
31 believe it leads anywhere. In fact, if your Lordship is
32 going to deal with that particular question which I have
33 ignored, it is very easy to deal with by reference to, for
34 example, table 1 on page 14. I have given there the total
35 fat content, the saturated fat content and the amount of
36 calories per item. So it is just a question of multiplying
37 the fat figures by 9 in each case, I suppose, and the
38 totals I think are right -- I hope they are. One can see
39 what proportion of the total calorie content each item
40 contributes by way of fat.
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42 But, again, one wonders what the basis of the comparison
43 might be. I did not attempt an imaginative exercise. If
44 one said this means high in fat, what is one comparing it
45 with? Certainly, if one compares it with a tomato salad
46 without salad dressing it might well be thought high in
47 fat. If, on the other hand, one compared it with a dish of
48 bacon and eggs, sausage and black pudding, etc., it might
49 not be. It is difficult to -----
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. Well, it might not be by comparison but
52 I certainly consider the latter to be. If you just put a
53 traditional English breakfast in front of me and said, "Is
54 that high in fat", I say, "Yes, it certainly is."
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56 MR. RAMPTON: So would I.
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I would not have to think about what I was
59 eating for the rest of the day to reach decision.
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