Day 309 - 03 Dec 96 - Page 07


     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  All I am saying is, one might find if one has done
     2        the calculations on eggs --  I do not know what the fat
     3        content of the typical breakfast is -- one might find as an
     4        exercise in imagination, or, perhaps, rather, speculation,
     5        that the McDonald's meal, the one I chose, which is
     6        deliberately quite fatty, fell somewhere between the
     7        ungarnished tomato -- I should say 'unvarnished', that
     8        might be a better word -- salad or the traditional English
     9        or Scottish breakfast.  Whether one can then say it is high
    10        or not, I really do not know.  I am quite content to leave
    11        that there.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  There is an instinctive element to it, is
    14        there not, in any event, in one's own judgment?  I mean, if
    15        I have for breakfast (as I do not mind confessing I do) a
    16        slice of brown toast with some jam or marmalade on it --
    17        I do not actually eat butter -- and a mug of coffee with
    18        milk, and I actually look at the wholemeal bread packet and
    19        I look at the marmalade jar, it is quite clear, despite the
    20        milk in the coffee, I am having a breakfast which is low in
    21        fat but high in sugar even though I do not have sugar in
    22        the coffee, because the marmalade, to my surprise, I find,
    23        is about 75 per cent sugar, it is only about 20 per cent
    24        fruit.  But there we are.  That is one of the things I have
    25        learned as a result of this case.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  I can only suggest a different supplier for
    28        your Lordship's marmalade!
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It has only a trace of fat in it, and the
    31        brown wholemeal bread has very little fat in it as well.
    32        The milk, of course, has a lot of fat in it.
    33
    34   MR. RAMPTON:  If your Lordship is worried about that, one can
    35        have milk which is practically fatless.
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  OK.  That is helpful.  Yes.  My next marker
    38        was on page 14.
    39
    40   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just so I understand that, I only need do it
    43        in a couple of instances, the 14.2 per cent EAR for total
    44        fat for the 17-year-old male is the 391.5 kilocalories over
    45        the 2755 kilocalories?
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  That is it.  I have calculated the kilocalorie
    48        contribution for each item in terms of as a percentage of
    49        the EAR, the minimum EAR found in COMA 41.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But ----- 
    52 
    53   MR. RAMPTON:  That is the approach I have used more or less
    54        throughout these different tables.  As your Lordship will
    55        have seen, it gets quite a bit more complicated when one
    56        gets to vitamins and minerals, but the fat is
    57        straightforward.  I should mention -----
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am merely pausing because I cannot
    60        understand my own note.  So just pause.  (Pause)

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