Day 309 - 03 Dec 96 - Page 07
1 MR. RAMPTON: All I am saying is, one might find if one has done
2 the calculations on eggs -- I do not know what the fat
3 content of the typical breakfast is -- one might find as an
4 exercise in imagination, or, perhaps, rather, speculation,
5 that the McDonald's meal, the one I chose, which is
6 deliberately quite fatty, fell somewhere between the
7 ungarnished tomato -- I should say 'unvarnished', that
8 might be a better word -- salad or the traditional English
9 or Scottish breakfast. Whether one can then say it is high
10 or not, I really do not know. I am quite content to leave
11 that there.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: There is an instinctive element to it, is
14 there not, in any event, in one's own judgment? I mean, if
15 I have for breakfast (as I do not mind confessing I do) a
16 slice of brown toast with some jam or marmalade on it --
17 I do not actually eat butter -- and a mug of coffee with
18 milk, and I actually look at the wholemeal bread packet and
19 I look at the marmalade jar, it is quite clear, despite the
20 milk in the coffee, I am having a breakfast which is low in
21 fat but high in sugar even though I do not have sugar in
22 the coffee, because the marmalade, to my surprise, I find,
23 is about 75 per cent sugar, it is only about 20 per cent
24 fruit. But there we are. That is one of the things I have
25 learned as a result of this case.
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27 MR. RAMPTON: I can only suggest a different supplier for
28 your Lordship's marmalade!
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It has only a trace of fat in it, and the
31 brown wholemeal bread has very little fat in it as well.
32 The milk, of course, has a lot of fat in it.
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34 MR. RAMPTON: If your Lordship is worried about that, one can
35 have milk which is practically fatless.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: OK. That is helpful. Yes. My next marker
38 was on page 14.
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40 MR. RAMPTON: Yes.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just so I understand that, I only need do it
43 in a couple of instances, the 14.2 per cent EAR for total
44 fat for the 17-year-old male is the 391.5 kilocalories over
45 the 2755 kilocalories?
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47 MR. RAMPTON: That is it. I have calculated the kilocalorie
48 contribution for each item in terms of as a percentage of
49 the EAR, the minimum EAR found in COMA 41.
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51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But -----
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53 MR. RAMPTON: That is the approach I have used more or less
54 throughout these different tables. As your Lordship will
55 have seen, it gets quite a bit more complicated when one
56 gets to vitamins and minerals, but the fat is
57 straightforward. I should mention -----
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59 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am merely pausing because I cannot
60 understand my own note. So just pause. (Pause)