No Fragments Archive 10: Diskmags/nf_archive_10.iso/MAGS/AMAZINE/AMAZINE2.MSA/BONUS/DEF_KLF.TXT

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| INTERVIEW WITH DEF KLF / MAD VISION  |
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 Interviewed by the independent Slayer


SLAYER: Hello Def Klf, can you  present
yourself and tell us what you are doing
in the band?

DEF KLF: So, I am  Def KLF, we  haven't
real fixed functions in Mad Vision,I do
GFX,lame code,Amazine,swapping...  well
I like to say I'm the conscience of the
band, even if it  doesn't  really  mean
something... I have been 20  years  old
last june and I'm french.

SLAYER:The codename Def Klf was used by
you & Alexis. Is it still used for both
of you?

DEF KLF: Well,in the begining of M.V,we
didn't have any codenames. We wanted 2B
anonymous, a  bit like the 42 Crew was.
But everybody asked  us, who  did  that
intros  or   menus   or  asked  us  who
slagged them off. So we took codenames.
Alexis lives not so far from  my  home,
and I don't  release  anything  without
his approval and that's the same  thing
for him. We are "complementary". So  we
used the same name. At the present time
for Amazine Def KLF is only me (Cedric)
but for cracks, code or  anything else,
either we don't use any name or we  use
Def KLF one or  even  sometimes  Alexis
uses  his real name.


SLAYER: You are 1 of the founder of  Mad
Vision, can you summarize how you set up
the band & tell us who were the  founder
members?

DEF KLF: I wrote in the last issue  the
story  of  M.V, so  that's  not  really
useful, I repeat the  same  thing.  But
in 1989 we were  3  school-friends: me,
Alexis,and Fantasia-who coded  most  of
our 1st intros-,but he is unknow becauz
we didn't use any name at this time.
Fantasia is  not active anymore because
he lives  in Paris now, and he bought a
big PC.But if he can afford a Falcon he
might be back in the crew.

SLAYER: What motivated you to make game
menus,and why did you stopped on cd Y ?

DEF KLF: We began our menus  to  spread
cracks  from  Maxi of  the  Replicants,
then we received many encouragements,so
we decided to continue with cracks from
the Replicants.But in the begining that
was just for fun, that's why our  menus
were called:A,B,C... we didn't think we
could release more than 2 or 3 menus.
I'm still amazed by our success because
the   games  were  "hot"  but  most  of
them, especially in  the  begining  had
bugs. But our aim  was  only  to  write
stupid scrollers, to spread replicants-
cracks  and  not  to  have a  challenge
with BBC, TMB,P.P.  or any  other  real
menu teams.
 To make menus is-like everything- very
boring after a few months. We wanted to
stop with menu Z, but  summer-hollidays
were  there  before  the  menu Z.   And
finally  it was funny to  stop  with  a
meny Y,because many people expected and
asked us the Z.


SLAYER: I remember that you had the pro
-ject of a disk-mag in mind since about
one year, how did the idea came to  you
and were you influenced  by  Maggie  or
other disk-mags?

DEF KLF: The idea of a  disk-mag  comes
of course from Maggie, I was a  fan  in
the beginning, but the last issues were
from my point of  view  a  bit  boring,
always the same interviews, game tests,
it was not very radical or  revolution-
nary for an underground disk-mag.
 I've also seen one or two amiga  disk-
mags which are  very  more  interesting
than ST one,even if I don't really know
the Amiga scene and actors.
  I  also   like   very   much  classic
magazines -on paper-, I  read  a  lotsa
mag ;whereas I  haven't read  a  single
book for more than 10 months !


SLAYER: Is it because  of  the  Massive
Attack or is there another  reason  for
having released the first issue only in
June 92?

DEF KLF: I told the rest  of  the  team
a long time ago about Amazine, but they
were not very enthusiastic. I thought I
was not able to release it alone. So no
issue, even if  I  was  still  thinking
about ideas of articles.
MAY-JUNE 92 many bands split up,or have
troubles  with  "authorities", we  were
about to stop MV, but I & Spy 3  wanted
to  do  something  before quitting; The
Gangster,you-Slayer- and  other  people
finally helped us to release the mag.


SLAYER: Speaking of the Massive  Attack
which was also in project since a  long
time, I have in mind the preview of the
maze on which one of the coders  worked
on at the Trans Beauce 2, is the result
what you expected?

DEF KLF: To  be  quite  straightforward
about it, we didn't  expected  anything
from  that laby. And I thought we would
never finish &  use it like many  other
thing  we  do. We  have  been  told  by
someone  it  was  lame. That's not very
nice, or easy to use, but as far as the
code is concerned that's an interesting
idea... I think...

SLAYER: No, I  talked  about  the whole
demo....

DEF KLF: Well, I like it.  The  screens
are quite good, but we have made a  few
mistakes...  Rythme  is  missing,  some
scrollers are too long, the same  music
during the demo  would  be  better, and
an "alternative-menu" would be welcome.
But as  I've said we like it, we aren't
ashamed of having done it. Just  I'm  a
bit sad that we released it in a period
where the scene  was  sleeping,  so  no
disk-mag tested it,and it hasn't really
been spread.

SLAYER: Mad Vision  has  acquired a bad
reputation with many peoples because of
the wars you had with groups  like  the
Empire,   Overlanders   or   guys  like
Ruthless, do you have any regrets?

DEF KLF: No,we haven't.  We can justify
all  that  we  did.    Our  motto: " NO
COMPROMISE" is sometime a bit  hard  to
apply,  but   we  have   never  keep  a
low profile. We have always say what we
think about bands,persons or attitudes.
 Sometimes brand new bands slag us off,
but we don't react even if they  spread
bullstories  about  us.  We  have  only
attacked very known bands, because they
didn't behave well and that many people
admired them: EMPIRE,OVR,RUTHLESS...
 In fact we like fights which are  lost
from the beginning.


SLAYER: You used to tag in Pau, do  you
continue? What is your motivation?

DEF KLF: I almost stopped 3 months ago,
because all my friends I  used  to  tag
with, have been arrested by police. And
because most people when they see  some
tags think:"Oh again that fuckin' arabs
who get our town dirty!". Whereas  I am
french,& I don't come  from  an  under-
privileged  social  class. When  I  tag
that's not for  me  an  aggression, but
tags play into F.N. & racialist hands.

 But,sometimes,I go tagging alone, just
to show I'm still alive,but that's less
funny.
 My motivations...It's a  way to  exist
in a "parallel world",to use an aerosol
bomb is cool -I like that-,and when you
are with your friends or alone when the
city sleeps, you  are  in  a  state  of
nervous tension because of the  police,
it's an exciting challenge.

SLAYER: I know that your favourite group
is the Pixies, what other groups do  you
listen to?

DEF KLF: The Pixies are  from  America,
as  American   rock   bands ,   I  also
like: Dynosaur JR,Yo la tengo, Nirvana,
REM,Sonix Youth...
  As rap  bands, I like  PE #1 , Heroes
of Hiphoprisy, Arrested D,A tribe C.Q.
I  also  like  indy  european  rock: My
bloody valentine, Inspiral  carpet, The
Charlatans,Planet ZEN,Boo radley's...

I also like inventive techno,and french
rap bands,like I.A.M., Suprem NTM -just
their  music and their energy not their
confused lyrics-,Boo Du Con production,
,Massillia Sound System,Les Littles....

SLAYER: Do pay attention to the lyrics
of the groups you are listening to?

DEF KLF: It depends on the  music.
 I like Heroes of Hiphoprisy for  their
lyrics, I enjoy Public  enemy  or  rock
for the music, and the energy they give
you,most of the time I don't understand
their lyrics.  But  I  can  hate  bands
for  their  attitudes  or  lyrics  like
Guns n' roses.

SLAYER: You now have your Bac (equival-
-ent of the A-level in France), do you
have any idea of what you are going to
do next year?

DEF KLF: I'm  going  to  University  to
learn economy...  60  minutes before my
registration, I didn't know if I wanted
to go to learn Geography or Economy...

SLAYER: What do you think of the future
of the Atari ST?

DEF KLF: The question I ask  myself  at
the moment is how much  can I  sell  my
ST.

SLAYER: I know you are intending to buy
the  new  Falcon 030, do you think that
Atari will release a  computer  without
any bugs and will not repeat  the  same
errors than with the STs?

DEF KLF: I'm not a fortune teller.
 Whatever,the Falcon is a great machine
And I'm sure that all the 1st demos  on
Falcon will have messages like FUCK OFF
AMIGA,ATARI RULES.  It will be possible
to do things we can't imagine yet.
 The  only  problem will come  from  my
point of view,that 4 megs  and  a  hard
disk will be necessary.

SLAYER: Okay, I will  write  down  some
words and you will just write down what
strikes you right away...

POLICE:
 All that I know  about  them, from  my
seldom experiences  is  that  the  most
understanding are national  police, the
suckers  are  local  policemen, because
they are not very intelligent, educated
trained...

FRANCE TELECOM:
Phone calls are too expensive but that
is the same thing everywhere.

TV: The opium of the people.

CLAUDIA SCHIFFER: A good old friend but
I lost his phone number.

NAOMI CAMPBELL: I used to go  out  with
her sister.

FAVE FOOD: I like good breads(!)(French
and mediterranean one ).    French  and
Italian food rule, don't bother me with
Hamburgers, that's  good  because  it's
soft and full of sugar but it can't  be
compared with good soups,cheese...

BEST CONCERT: Might be one of my first
one, I was 12, that was a french  rock
band:TELEPHONE.

BEST CP: I haven't been to so much good
CP. Best one might be one of the partiz
we did with only  Mad Vision, Factory &
Impact  members  drinking and  watching
X-movies  24  hours a day during 2 or 3
days. Transbeauce 1  was cool  too, not
too much people so you  could  talk  to
everybody, even if Pendragons was there
but it  helps  me  to  understand  what
"hiprocrisy" and "cowardice" mean.

ALCOOL: I don't like alcool, I  mean  I
drink to party but not really  for  the
taste.
 I  don't  also think being  completely
drunk is cool. I like  to remember what
I've done the night before.

DRUGS: I'm against all drugs  even  so-
called soft drugs like Shit.Not because
I think it's dangerous,but because when
you buy Shit you support a  dealer, and
so if he got money he will  stay  in  a
marginalized social group.  To buy drug
generates at long term delinquency.
 Moreover  where the fuck do you  think
Italian Maffia got its money from ?
 That's  because  lamers buy  Shit from
little dealers who  buy  drugs  from  a
bigger dealer who buy drug from  people
from the Maffia who bring drug to  your
country. You may laugh and  say  I'm  a
sad guy but that's the truth.

CRACKED GAME SELLERS:    I  hate   game
selling at european level, but  if  you
are from an active band  of  the  scene
and if it is  to  afford  your  stamps,
phone-cards  and  sometimes  a   record
or to go watching a movie that's okay.

MODEMS: Would be okay  if  phone  calls
were less expensive.Actually a good way
to do illegal things, to have  troubles
and to create disparities between bands
which has got one & others who haven't.
 Moreover post-swapping is a good thing
because  it let  a  bit  more  time  to
software companies to sell their games.

PHONE PHREAKING: Cool, if  you  haven't
any  troubles  and if nobody  must  pay
your phone calls.

AUDIO TAPE TRADING: The best  thing  to
do to fight the  expensive  CD. I  hate
CD because the sound is  metallic, they
are expensive  whereas  they  cost  the
same price as vynil or a tape  and  the
sleeves are tiny.


SLAYER: Is there something you want to
add to this interview?

DEF KLF: I haven't included that inter-
view in Amazine,  because  to  put  his
interview in  his  disk-mag  is  a  bit
egocentric,isn't it? I just want to say
the idea comes  from  Slayer, and  that
I've  nevertheless  enjoyed  VERY  MUCH
answering those questions and  I hope I
didn't bore you with all my "truths".

SLAYER: Def Klf, thank you for answering
my questions.